Infant Twins Die Simultaneously After Vaccines, Medical Board Rules ‘Just a Coincidence’

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Given that the sudden and simultaneous deaths of twins rarely occur, you would think- especially given the fact that they had been recently vaccinated– that it would receive quite a bit of attention. However, this story went largely unreported. (In order for twins to meet the criteria for simultaneous SIDS both babies must have died independently and within the same 24 hour time period.)

PubMed reports that identical twin girls, aged 3.5-months and delivered via c-section, were found dead (by their poor momma) in their crib, both laying face up. Not surprisingly, both babies were healthy will no serious medical history. Two days before their death, both of the girls had received their second dose of oral polio, DPT, and their first dose of hepatitis B vaccines. They had a fever the day after the vaccines and were given a teaspoon of acetaminophen.

All that and yet, “the death scene investigation, judicial investigation, parental assessment, macroscopic and microscopic autopsy findings and the toxicological analysis didn’t yield any specific cause of death.” Because the case was so rare it was referred to a board of multidisciplinary medical professionals at the Institute of Forensic Medicine, in the Ministry of Justice, in Istanbul. And yet, the Board still decided that the data they had was consistent with SIDS.

(Let this sink in: a medical journal is reporting that twins, who were recently vaccinated, both died but it’s nothing more than the luck of the draw. Unexplainable. That makes about as much sense as pediatricians who claim some kids “just get fevers all the time.”)

Source: PubMed

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  • Luccim

    How high were the fevers? Didn’t Dr. Stephanie Seneff find increased rates of adverse events when acetaminophen was given shortly after vaccination? Acetaminophen is not good for the liver, thus interfering with the detoxification process that’s so necessary following vaccines. I thought that DPT was replaced long ago by Dtap because of too many adverse events with DTP? Hopefully a full report was made to VAERS.

    Heartfelt condolences to the mother and family for such a tragic unnecessary loss.

  • love the view

    for some reason my pediatrician didnt like tylenol.. I always gave my kids baby aspirin or liquid motrin. My condolences.. and prayers for the parents of these beautiful girls.

  • Memphis Mike

    How can I verify the authenticity of this? News story with names ? Location?

  • Elisheva

    There must be more to this story….

  • overit

    A TEASPOON of acetaminophen would be an OVERDOSE in an infant that young (unless they were freakishly large 3 month olds weighing over 25 pounds!) Acetaminophen overdose causes liver failure and/or death. This has NOTHING to do with SIDS or even vaccination, but someone who didn’t read the label and overdosed their poor children!

  • Georgia Girl

    Ya’ll can say what you want, but before kids were given so many vaccines so close together and at such a young age, there was much less autism. I have read of several teens who have died after getting the flu vaccine. Why are there so many deniers? Let’s have some honest research that is carried out by independent sources not connected to big pharma.

  • Nurseynan

    I would like to know more information. I am a pediatric nurse, that is at odds with how many serums are injected in each immunization. In America, we can legally give FIVE immunizations in one visit, each syringe holding up to 3 serums (DPT is an example of 3 serums: diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus). We do not take into consideration premature births and give the baby the scheduled immunizations on the same schedule as a full-term baby, which means, a premie getting a 3 month old checkup, is actually NOT 3 months old, just 3 months out of the womb, and possibly only 2 actual months in development, but getting their 3 month immunizations.

    Plus, if Mom is nursing them, her immunities are THEIR immnunities, and that should cause a delay in the immunization schedule, but it does not (at least not in USA).

    I am also interested in the babies’ weight vs the reported 1 teaspoon Tylenol, but, that could be a mistake in reporting…

  • Diane

    A teaspoon of acetaminophen?

  • Jennifer R.

    This happened in 2007. Why is it just now being reported? Is it because it was in Turkey?

  • Kitsu

    We don’t know if that teaspoon was split between the two babies or if that was per child… but it is rather suspicious.

  • woodnymph!

    I read long ago, & have seen it reported many times since, that there is No Safe Dose of acetophenone. Did I spell that right? Or Tylenol! I have never used it sense & am baffled at how it is still marketed as the go to drug for infants & children! Any feedback on that? Not that I think it caused the deaths of these babies.
    I remain convinced that US is over vaccinating the children. I have given up trying to wake anyone up. It only breeds resentment.

  • Elizabeth A Haywood

    Those poor parents! My friend’s baby died the night after his “well baby” visit and vaccines when he was 6 months old. That was 12 years ago and his mother is still heartsick about it and talks about it all of the time!

  • Elizabeth

    I sold vaccines for years and never heard of the several teens that died after getting the flu vaccine. That is very interesting. Can you give me the specific cases, I would like to look into it.

  • Nurseynan. The pub med links is source with a link at the bottom which is what we quoted that (as well as the teaspoon – which we wonder if they mean a teaspoon each or….) It does state the exact details which are the same we reported. I was given my DPT (now known as DTaP, as you know) as the same age. seizures, 104 fever for a week and hospitalization. All very sad and pub med mentions nothing about them being premature.. It wasn’t in the US. Thanks for your comments, and if more details emerge we’ll let you know.

  • We have several articles on the site of children and teens dying after the flu shot and Gardasil. You can look under our database for that information with mainstream links and interviews with the parents. Some were just paralyzed while others did die.

  • yes we wish the pub med were clear on that. Another reason if I were vaccinating my children that I wouldn’t use acetaminophen at all, personally.

  • Memphis Mike. The location and information is in the PUB MED story clearly linked at the bottom of the article under the video.

  • Kevin Everson

    Were they both in the same crib? Could they have suffocated? Find it hard to believe that they both die from a shot that is given to millions of babys. Also possibly they overdosed on the medication that they were given. I highly doubt it was the shot directly.

  • I was wondering that as well. It sounded like they were in the same crib. :-/ In that case, that would be my guess, since guidelines are that infants have their own spaces due to suffocation risk.

  • Can you please share the pubmed link again? I see a couple of links, but seem to be missing the pubmed link you’re referencing.

  • Rick Shaw

    The title is not worth crap unless E Erin can produce documented evidence of the claim
    1st name the family
    2 the country
    3 the medical evidence
    for now that will do, these witch doctors need to be put down !

  • DeeLee

    This story is lacking in pertinent information. No names, dates or real specifics were given. If I wanted to verify the veracity of this I have nothing to go on. As a matter of fact, I tried to find back up evidence and found nothing. At face value, this is heartbreaking and my heart goes out to the family. But, if this was created to further an agenda, that would be heinous.

  • Ojy

    It is lacking information because, rather than a news story, it was a research case study. And you know what is conveniently left out here? That the extensive case study determined that being vaccinated REDUCED the risk of dying of SIDS. In this particular case, SIDS was determined to be the cause of death, and as we now know nearly 10 years later, there are several factors that can contribute to SIDS. And yeah, it could have also been that an OD on the painkiller contributed to the health state. But there is nothing in the study to confirm that the vaccination was at fault.

  • Ojy

    I would just like to point out that the excerpt shown here was part of an extensive research study that determined that being vaccinated actually REDUCED the chances of dying of SIDS. Because that is the info you won’t get from the host.

  • Sue

    Although I cannot find many different sources of this sad inceident, have a look at others…I did a search and many similar cases…various sources.
    ‘infant twins die after vaccines’.

  • Evidence-Based Medicine

    From the full text of the case report, “In the past there was concern that vaccinations might cause SIDS as the peak ages for SIDS is 2–4 months, which coincides with the age for vaccinations9 However studies have shown that vaccinations are not associated with an increased risk of SIDS.[42], [49] and [50] The twins received the second dose of oral polio, DPT and the first dose of Hepatitis B vaccines two days prior to death. They had fever and been given teaspoonful of acetaminophen each the first day of the vaccination. On subsequent two days they had no complaints of fever. The pediatricians consulted about the possible connection between deaths and immunization also confirmed that there is no proven link between vaccination and SIDS. According to the pediatricians, hypersensitivity reaction was not an expected incident since the twins were vaccinated the second doses and a day has passed over. Moreover, the vaccination records of the health unit were examined with the instruction of the health directorate and there were no complications or complaints in other children given the same vaccines consecutively.”

  • Evidence-Based Medicine

    This case is consistent with SIDS with multiple risk factors as outlined in the case report. The evidence does not support any link to vaccine reaction.

  • Evidence-Based Medicine

    The tragic incident happened in 2002 in Istanbul, Turkey. The case report was published in 2007 in the Journal of Forensic and Legal Medicine. It is unclear why it is being “reported” on now, other than to erroneously attempt to cultivate fear and continue to push an anti-vaccination agenda that is unfounded in the scientific medical literature.

  • Allie

    Absolutely incorrect.
    SIDS is actually LISTED on vaccine inserts as a side effect to receiving them. Soooo no, Vaccinating INCREASES the chances of SIDS. Read the package inserts. It’s all there. Can even be found on the cdc’s website. Healthy babies not injected with poisons don’t just randomly die in their sleep.

    Many people don’t know about VAERS but I’m sure these parents reported it and since you cannot sue the pharmaceutical company they will most likely get a pay out and told to hush.

  • Raquel Belnap

    That is why SIDS is listed on several vaccine inserts as a possible side effect. There are NO Studies showing the safety of multiple vaccines given at once nor are there any unvaxxed vs vaxxed studies. Also there are no true placebos in vaccine studies. The placebo is saline that contains the same adjuvents as are in the vaccines such as thermosil and aluminum so the safety data is flawed

  • Evidence-Based Medicine

    These parents surely did not report this incident from 2002 to the US CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System as they are a young couple who reside in a poor community in Turkey. Please read the case report and educate yourself before posting further.

  • Bean

    Okay, maybe not these specific parents but the comment still stands either way. That is what happens here hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times.

    The comment was also directed to the person stating that sids is reduced by vaccines when that is in fact incorrect. So incorrect that they now list sids as a side effect in vaccine inserts.

  • Barbara Kell

    I remember this happening to a set of twins in the UK, maybe 35-40 years ago. Long before I had any knowledge of vaccination injury or death.
    I remember so well the Mother describing one dead baby in it’s cot and running to the other in another room in the pram also discovering the second twin dead. All very strange at the time but now I know more I wonder if they had also been recently vaccinated.

  • overit

    The full report was very clear that they were EACH given a teaspoon of acetaminophen – “They had fever and been given teaspoonful of acetaminophen each the first day of the vaccination”

  • overit

    Right and a teaspoon EACH is overdose which can lead to death!

  • overit

    EXACTLY!

  • overit

    We do. The full case report states they were given a teaspoon EACH.

  • Johannastephen Galyen

    I sincerely doubt the validity of this story. It reads like click bait. I found a typo in it. And who ever gives that tiny of a child a teaspoon of Tylenol??? It would take half of forever using a dropper. Also, a child does not receive the DPT. It’s DTaP…and a so called medical article should be wise enough to know the difference.

    There’s got to be more to the story than just immunization fearmongering. If the mom overdosed both babies on Tylenol, then it’s entirely possible something else happened.

    If looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it probably is a duck. And something about this story says it Quackery

  • Jean Billington

    A teaspoon of acetaminophen is to much unless they were really fat babies.
    Here in IL I’ve heard of some kids getting 9 shots at once, because they were behind on their shots. No way would I let them give that many shots to my kids.
    My grandson just had his second set of baby shots and also had a mild fever and his dosage for acetaminophen is 1/2 teaspoon. I would question the 1 teaspoon. He weighs 15 pounds.

  • Cass

    It’s called don’t give the baby a teaspoon of medicine that’s way too much!! You follow the directions or call your doctor you don’t self medicate! Sigh poor babies 🙁

  • Cass

    Also unfortunately some people are allergic to different things that does not mean that we should stop saving hundreds of lives because of a few lost lives.. it is sad but there is not much we can do about it

  • Rachel

    Ya know, if autopsies were performed, as stated, then it would show liver failure as the cause of death; if it had been. But it doesn’t. Just SIDS.
    So the Tylenol, no matter what the dose was, was ruled out as being the cause of death.

  • Alisha

    Man, when will people wake the “F” up?

    I sure wouldn’t want the blood of my own child on my hands. Nevermind 2 children. It sucks but as long as people keep being scared to hell by the vaccine/disease propaganda, We’ll keep seeing these stories about infant deaths.
    Sad.

  • Alisha

    Do some looking. Don’t rely on others to tell you where they find their info. If you’re hell bent on disagreeing, really all you need to do is visit VAERS!

  • Regina

    I was diagnosed with Hep B way back in 2013 when I was supposed to donate blood to my nephew. It was normal to do laboratory check on my blood hence it was found out that I’m reactive to the illness. I’m very depressed and demoralized since this disease has been unacceptable just like the unpopularity of AIDS. I was so nervous that I’ve got ashamed to talk with other people onward, so my mom subjected me to series of tests so that damage to the liver may be traced. The doctor told me that; YES i am chronic carrier, i was so depressed was thinking of committing suicide, till i came across a forum on internet, about HEALTH LAB who cured various diseases like Hepatitis B, Herpes, liver fluke HIV and others, without wasting time, i contacted them and i get medication from them and after the days given to me, I just went back to my doctor and they also carry out the test again, and i was negative of Hepatitis B. Please contact this HEALTH LAB if you are hepatitis B positive or any kind of diseases their email is: labhealth2@gmail.com

  • Um, i’m reading it and it does not say EACH. please provide link to where it states that.

  • the pubmed i posted doesn’t say each. Please show me where it says that. I’m happy to stand corrected.

  • SIDS is listed as a side effect in the vaccine inserts. and I’m not sure why you added the word EACH to the story unless you are sharing from some unknown link I’m not seeing. Please provide link or citation.

  • Johannastephen Galyen, You failed to read the .GOV site (PUBMED) which clearly states A) they received acetaminophen NOT Tylenol brand (if you read the article you’d see it says this happened in Turkey clear as day) And because you found a typo means nothing. I see CNN, Fox News BBC Washington Post typos every day so that’s a lame excuse. Also, if you’d bothered to READ the government PUBMED link with all doctors listed and even their emails it explains that in Turkey they received DPT not DTaP like they would here in the US. We have millions of readers on this site a month. Next time I encourage you to read the easily viewable clickable link to the PUBMED government site with all the information clear as day which would stop you from having to eat crow and look ignorant and arrogance with your false laughable statements on our award winning site.

  • It has happened several times as PUBMED states right on the. .GOV site

  • Rick Shaw, Your reading comprehension is failing you. It CLEARLY states the country and city right in the article. Furthermore we clearly provide the link to the PUBMED .GOV site with the case study as clear as day too that shows all the information. Besides you missing the name of the city in this short easy to read article, you also missed the link and the evidence. Oh and if you knew anything about case studies- Newsflash! Most medical professionals or anyone with any science background knows that (shocker!) they never list the name of the dead victims or the parents. SMH. Tsk Tsk.

  • Deelee,
    A) We link RIGHT to the government case study ON the PUBMED .GOV site with the names of the doctors and even their emails. FYI case studies would NEVER provide the names of the dead babies of the parents. Please read the link under the video with an easy to click link to all the details you can ask for down to the toxicology report info and healthy history of the babies.

  • I am looking at the report and don’t see EACH. Could you please provide a link to where it says each? Also the toxicology report did NOT show acetaminophen as the cause of death. It said it was SIDS (which is a side effect clearly listed on the vaccine inserts by the vaccine manufacturers)

  • A) it wasn’t tylenol brand as it wasn’t in the US and it clearly states that toxicology didn’t show acetaminophen as cause of death. SIDS is determined as the cause of death which is a side effect on vaccine inserts made by the very vaccine manufacturers themselves.

  • You are correct. I’m still waiting for Evidence Based medicine (not a fan of my page) to tell me where it says EACH in the case study. even so , no matter as it was shown in toxicology report it wasn’t the cause of death.

  • Katydid

    Maybe this is exactly what SIDS is? And not some unexplainable event.

  • yet it didn’t show as cause of death on toxicology report .

  • Suffocation was not seen to be the cause of death nor was the teaspoon of acetaminophen.. Though I wouldn’t use it ever on my child.

  • Report says nothing about suffocation. It says nothing of acetaminophen poisoning on toxicology reports either. It was listed as SIDS (which is a side effect of vaccines listed right on the inserts) Just saying..

  • yes i would never give acetaminophen to my child, but it didn’t show acetaminophen poisoning on the toxicology report. They chalked it up as SIDS. I agree about the schedule

  • read the .GOV link to the case study with doctor’s names and emails clearly listed at the end of the article like it always is. This happens more than you think. Babies do die after vaccines. I don’t know if this was caused by vaccines or not. Maybe they both just died coincidentally.

  • Jason Lones

    Neither did the vaccines.

  • They determined SIDS which is listed in the official vaccine insert as a side effect to the vaccines.

  • King for a Day

    you keep on stating that SIDS is stated as a side-effect, but I’m not so sure that is true – as far as I can tell it merely says that people have reported that SIDS is a side-effect. As I understand as soon as something serious is reported to be a side-effect, then by law it has to be included on the insert even without any evidence that it is so.

    Can you show the evidence that it is listed as a side-effect? (and not just reported as a side-effect)

  • Margaret lee Combs

    Absolutely. Trump’s adm in already looking into autism. He has met with Big Pharma already to tell them drug prices must come down. The drug exec was looking quite ill.
    A CDC researcher was told to destroy the data his team had found on the link between vaccines-most especially the MMR Vaccine. It was banned in Germany many years ago. Also Danish studies show the link. One CDC researcher did not destroy his copy of their data and has blown the whistle. They try to make him sound like a psycho but he has the study and it clearly shows.

  • Margaret lee Combs

    Simultaneous SIDS???? STRANGE

  • Karen

    My question…is what is the rush…we don’t have epidemics anymore today…so why can’t we wait till the child is a bit older..till their immunity is stronger and can fight the immunizations…my first 3 children were immunized by the schedule but that was over 20 years ago…now the immunizations have more products in them…so with my last child who is 8 now–I waited till she was 5 with no side effects-no problems. Why can’t we just have patience and give the infants more time to grow up? so sad…I noticed a huge increase in autism….there was none of that when I was growing up so there is something going on…we need to take note and educate more people.

  • Having been hospitalized for a week with seizures and written a few books about DPT vaccine injury, I sure can. I will get a copy of the insert and post a picture if you would like. This will have to suffice in the meantime. Unfortunately we have people on here changing the words of the case study which didn’t say the word “each” that I posted and they keep saying that the medicine given after the vaccines could be the tires of death but toxicology reports didn’t show that. SIDS is listed on the actual vaccine insert as a cause of death for the particular vaccine these infants received. Our site doesn’t have millions of monthly readers and win awards because I just love to make this stuff up. https://therefusers.com/the-pertussis-vaccine-lists-autism-and-sudden-infant-death-syndrome-as-serious-adverse-events-on-the-package-insert/

  • PS of course they can’t. The trolls are thick on this one. Doesn’t matter anyway because it was not the cause of death cording to toxicology reports. Yes it is listed right on the vaccine insert for this particular vaccine as a side effect. https://therefusers.com/the-pertussis-vaccine-lists-autism-and-sudden-infant-death-syndrome-as-serious-adverse-events-on-the-package-insert/

  • Jazmine Rivera

    Do you have actual proof there there were “NONE” when you were growing up? Autism isn’t this ‘brand new thing’, we’re just getting to the point where we’re seeing things from a medical-technologically based view, not just putting people into homes or keeping them sheltered when we feel they are a little bit “off”. As was the practice years ago.

  • Rasmus

    The article mentions that the kids mothers grandmother had three sets of twins (6 kids) 5 of which died as infants. Further, their mothers uncle and aunt had twins who died as infants. The kids had double layers of pyjamas, slept together in a bed and their father was a smoker, all of which are risk factors for SIDS. Although they were not preterm, they had low birthweight which is also a risk factor. I would say there are other more reasonable reasons for their sad departure than the vaccine, maybe a genetic mutation in the family or maybe they were too hot during the night.

  • King for a Day

    Hi Erin, thanks for replying.

    However, that link confirms what I am saying. As is stated in the link: ‘adverse events reported during post-approval use.’ ‘Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.’

    The insert actually goes on to state that ‘these reactions are reported voluntarily’ and it is significant that this is listed in a separate section to the section on reactions detected in clinical trials.

    What all this gets to is that a grieving parent, who has decided that their child has suffered from SIDS or autism due to the vaccine, has then reported this, and so by law it has to be included on the insert. No evidence needs to be given or causation proved.

    I don’t believe you are making anything up, but I do believe that you have misinterpreted the importance of that inclusion on the medication insert. Please read it closely again.

    When you do so it is important to note the word ‘or’ in the phrase ‘seriousness or frequency of reporting’ It is understandable that you may have made the same mistake as the author of the link you provided when they misquoted that section here: Yet those conditions are listed on the DTaP package insert with the statement that they are included because such vaccine adverse reactions are serious and frequent.

    I understand that you believe that vaccines cause autism and SIDS and that is your prerogative to do so. What I beg you to do is to stop stating that the drug manufacturer is admitting this on the insert, because that is not the case.

    Thanks.

  • liddlewhiteduv

    Unfortunately, infants that haven’t been vaccinated also die. So just what is the causation in those cases if not vaccines?

  • liddlewhiteduv

    My understanding is DTaP is a safer adjuvant than the DPT. Maybe this is an issue as well?

  • Anne Murphy

    Giving acetaminophen after a toxic burden is placed on liver is just reprehensible in medicine. Any idiot who studies metabolic pathways could tell you that. I still want to know who writes these textbooks

  • No one stated that this is caused by vaccines and we cannot be sure. Same with Yale’s brand new published study linking vaccines to brain disorders, but I’ll stay on the safe side and not vaccinate personally for me. http://www.healthnutnews.com/19986-2yale-university-study-shows-association-between-vaccines-and-brain-disorders/

  • where does it state there was “none” To whom are you replying?

  • Yes but DTaP is not effective. Sadly Merck is being sued by their own virologists (this is in mainstream) for the inefficacy of the vaccines.

  • amen

  • Diane Moffatt

    There wasn’t less autism – it wasn’t actually a recognised diagnosis – kids who had it were just considered stupid.

  • Diane Moffatt

    Correlation is not causation.

  • cwjuhl

    Just to be clear, this occurred in Turkey, not the U.S. Further, the article above appears to have looked no further into this than the abstract of the actual paper. Much more detailed information is included in the actual paper.

  • Димитър Янев

    We can consider you as stupid! Do you see 25 to 35 old Autistic people everywhere around you!? No! Autistic people are really clever, don’t call them stupid! Judge your words really carefully I’m a dad to 3 years old Autistic boy( vaccine damaged) and I hate people like you who cover the eye to people like me from seeing the horrible true how the vaccines poison and kill our children’s every minute!

  • Diane Moffatt

    My son has Aspergers syndrome. I don’t know about you but I have known old people with Aspergers. Many scientists and other unusual people fit that category too. I am an artist and have known many of all ages. I never said I considered them stupid.

  • alimiali

    Do you really know what saline is? What you’re talking about is an adjuvant control and it’s not used in clinical trials but in pre-clinical (=animal) trials. In certain types of trials there is no placebo group because it would be unethical to have one e.g. in cancer treatment trials the control group gets an existing treatment and the test group gets the new drug – it would be unethical to give cancer patients a placebo. All controls though are evaluated at the pre-clinical stage though.

  • ‘Tis Moi

    You’re being programmed to accept more & more attrocities– when will the USA WAKE UP?

    The world watches!

  • alimiali

    Virologists? Pertussis is a bacterial infection

  • So the scientists and experts that state the rates are climbing at an alarming rate are all wrong? Proven science is all wrong and you’re right that people were just considered “stupid”. SMH

  • CWJUHL – just to be clear we state that clear as day in the article where the location is. Please refrain from commenting until you read the very short easy to read article thoroughly. It’s very simple. Please provide link to actual paper. I’ve been waiting for one single non regular reader to do so. Maybe you’ll comply.

  • It’s tragic they did that after vaccines, but toxicology does not report that as cause of death.

  • Yes virologists. I’d suggest using google before trying to question me. We don’t win award after award on this site and speak to thousands of doctors a month (like with Robert F Kennedy a month) as a featured speaker for not continually having our facts right. Here it is. Virologists are suing MERCK (their own scientists) for the inefficacy of the vaccine. Again, we are right and have lectured around the world on the subject as I will at Parker University and in Southern Cal this month on the subject. http://ahrp.org/former-merck-scientists-sue-merck-alleging-mmr-vaccine-efficacy-fraud/

  • You are quite welcome!

  • It states right in the article it was in Instanbul, but thanks for repeating the obvious 🙂

  • Terri

    I’m 56 years old, and I can tell you for a FACT that autism simply wasn’t around–there were no kids with autistic traits. It was EXTREMELY rare–so rare I don’t recall hearing the term until maybe the late 70’s? I’m tired of hearing the “there’s more diagnosed now” argument. I was there—and I’m telling you, there were no kids around with autism, diagnosed or not!

  • cwjuhl

    Actually, that information isn’t divulged until close to the end of the article, and even then it is easy for the casual reader to miss. The article never clearly states where the twins were born or lived. As for providing a link to the actual paper, perhaps YOU should have done that, instead of just referencing the abstract???

  • Christine

    Thimerosal was taken out of vaccines in the US in 2001…??

  • Aprbqb

    And neither did the vaccinations….

  • Siobhan Justin

    Does this statement mean that unless they see macroscopic damage they don’t do microscopic examination of the brain? If that is true, it explains how they can say that the cause of death is undetermined. It is easy enough to examine the brain for evidence of mercury or aluminum and axonal injury. It sounds to me that they are purposely not doing the one test that would arrive at the correct conclusion. —Histology
    In a series of 800 consecutive cases of SUID, [113] 6% of the infants had a neuropathologic cause of death. Almost all had clinical histories or gross brain findings at autopsy suggesting the cause of death. In only 2 cases (< 1%) did brain histology alone determine the cause of death in the absence of a "neurologic history" or clearly evident macroscopic abnormalities.
    In the absence of macroscopic abnormalities or a suggestive clinical history, formal histologic examination of the brain rarely determines the cause of death in SUID. A significant clinical history or the presence of abnormal gross brain findings should prompt a standardized histologic study of formalin-fixed brain tissue; the yield of histologic abnormalities is increased in these circumstances.

  • Karen

    I can guarantee you that autism was not as prevalent as it is today…not when I was young and not when my older kids were young…there is a definite distinction between children with autism and children without it…so I don’t agree that this is not a new thing and it is just being diagnosed. Infants are dieing right after they get vaccinations-it is shown there is a correlation…so my thought is rather than push it why not wait till the infant grows and the immunity is stronger…again I ask “what is the rush??”

  • Bree

    Other sites are stating the the children dies because they were given too much acetaminophen????

  • bilingualmom

    Of course not, never will be on the report. If they had seizures or Hypotonic Hyporesponsive Episodes after vaccination, there is never any evidence after the fact. Both are documented adverse reactions with the DTP/ DTaP vaccine (the DTP of course being the old whole cell version not used, at least in the U.S., anymore). In fact, with the DTP vaccine the CDC now admits (although they wouldn’t at the time) that HHE was happening to every 1 in 1,750 infants. They claim it is so rare now with the DTaP that they don’t know how often it happens. Then again, many of these episodes may not be witnessed (i.e. when it happens when baby is in the crib alone), and even when it is witnessed, it is often not reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).

  • Aleciss

    Wtf how did they have vaccinations so early? I live in adelaide and from what i know infants are not meant to start vaccines until they are 6 months old at earliest??? Straight away the elements in the vaccine were too strong for their bodies?? Hellooo duurrr who the fucks investigates these cases

  • Ceri

    Hold on… this was TEN years ago…

  • Sally Neish

    The understatement of the century!!

  • Sally Neish

    Gosh! You ARE patient with all these people who don’t actually read all the other comments and repeat, ad nauseam, the same observations.

  • bilingualmom

    I would also like to point out to you that according to the study, these twins received the DTP vaccine (whole cell version no longer in use in the U.S.). The CDC admits that 1 in every 1,750 children experienced Hypertonic Hyporesponsive Episodes (HHE) after the DTP vaccine. This is when an infant goes blue/gray around the mouth due to reduced oxygen flow, can’t move its arms or legs, can’t verbalize, and in many cases completely collapses. What do you think happened to those infants when this happened to them while alone in their cribs? Does that sound harmless to you? Again, the 1 in 1,750 is a statistic the CDC agrees with. They wouldn’t admit to it when we used the DTP, but they acknowledge it now that we use a “safer” vaccine (the DTaP). You should really question any study that claims there was a reduced risk of SIDS after vaccination. With scientifically documented and acknowledged adverse reactions like HHE, I seriously doubt the validity of any such conclusion.

  • bilingualmom

    This is not a recent case – it happened several years ago. They both received the DTP vaccine. The CDC acknowledges that 1 in every 1,750 children experienced Hypertonic Hyporesponsive Episodes (HHE) after the DTP vaccine. That is when an infant goes blue/gray around the mouth due to reduced oxygen flow, can’t move its arms or legs, can’t verbalize, and in some cases completely collapses. There is no physical evidence after the fact of this reaction – it has to be witnessed in the moment. So you can draw your own conclusion….

  • bilingualmom

    It’s still in the multi dose vials of flu vaccine. And I believe it is in one of the other vaccines, but only in trace amounts.

  • bilingualmom

    Is your argument that because vaccines don’t cause all infant deaths, they must not cause any? If that is what you are trying to say, it isn’t logical. Just as it isn’t logical to say that because not all lung cancers are caused by smoking, smoking must not cause any of the cases. I have posted several times now on this article that the CDC admits that when the DTP vaccine was used (what these babies received), 1, in every 1,750 children experienced Hypertonic Hyporesponsive Episodes after receiving the vaccine. This is when an infant goes blue/gray around the mouth due to reduced oxygen flow, can’t move its limbs, can’t verbalize, and sometimes completely collapses. There is no physical evidence of one of these episodes, you just have to witness it. What do you think was happening if these babies were having these episodes alone in their cribs? The truth can be difficult to wrap your mind around, but it’s still there, when you’re ready to see it.

  • bilingualmom

    I’m not sure why it would be relevant that this occurred in Turkey. These kinds of events happen here in the U.S. too. The only relevant piece of information is that it was a few years ago and the babies received the DTP, which is the previous (whole cell) version of the vaccine. We now use the DTaP because it is supposedly a “safer” vaccine. With the DTP, the CDC acknowledges that 1 in every 1,750 children experienced Hypertonic Hyporesponsive Episodes, which is where the infant goes blue/gray around the mouth due to reduced oxygen, can’t move its limbs, can’t verbalize, and sometimes completely collapses. It still happens with the DTaP vaccine, but the claim is that it is so rare now that they don’t know how often it happens. Then again, it usually doesn’t get reported so it is very hard to know the frequency of this adverse reaction. Seizures have also been an adverse reaction associated with both the DTP and DTaP vaccines. In both types of reactions, there usually is no physical evidence after the fact. You have to witness the events. But it’s not good, especially if an infant is alone in its crib.

  • bilingualmom

    There isn’t much we can do about it? Well, our government hasn’t even tried to do any research on this topic. As the parent of a child who nearly died after the DTaP, believe me that I was livid when I discovered that his reaction had been happening for decades and no one had done anything about it. “Sad but there is not much we can do about it” doesn’t cut it.

  • bilingualmom

    Yes, the DTaP is supposedly a safer vaccine than the DTP. But seizures (nonfebrile) and Hypertonic Hyporesponsive Episodes (HHE) (both capable of being the cause of SIDS) still happen with the DTaP, they are just not anywhere near as common as they were with the whole cell version of the vaccine.

  • bilingualmom

    It also is consistent with both seizures and Hypertonic Hyporesponsive Episodes (HHE), both of which are acknowledged adverse reactions to pertussis vaccines, and both of which usually leave no physical evidence afterwards – you have to witness the medical event to know it happened. Both can also be the potential cause of SIDS. The CDC acknowledges that HHE used to happen to 1 in every 1, 750 children when the DTP was used (what these babies received). HHE is when the infant goes blue/gray around the mouth due to reduced oxygen, can’t move its arms or legs, can’t verbalize, and in some cases completely collapses. Not good if an infant is alone in its crib.

  • Carrie Jendza

    Temple Grandin didn’t exist then? Odd since she was born in 1947 and is autistic.

  • MaryRC

    How horrible for this family! I would make someone pay!

  • Terri

    Do you struggle with reading comprehension? Or are you intentionally being obtuse?

  • Barefoot in MN

    I disagree with you,politely, and PATIALLY, and agree with Dianne Moffat PARTIALLY. My sister is in her 50s; she has Asperger’s (a form of autism) and was “slow; she repeated 2 grades and is still the “odd one in the family”. She has the classic sign of Asperger’s, she just wasn’t diagnosed till in her late forties. But she was born after I was, and at a time when the vaccination schedule had JUST been changed! adding in another shot or tow, and changing some ingredients. 🙁

  • Barefoot in MN

    acetominaphen (IIRC) allows toxins to cross the blood-brain barrier… so it is possible that the toxic vaccines would
    not have been a problem, or not as much, if they had not been give acetominaphen.

  • Carrie Jendza

    Neither. You appear to be struggling with math, though. Here, I’ll help out–Temple Grandin is turning 70 this year and has been, for all of her life, autistic. You cannot know “for a fact” that there were no cases of autism at any given time because you are not omniscient. One cannot know. My point being: Temple Grandin is a well-known person who is also autistic and is older than you. Therefore she did in fact exist–she was most definitely “around”.

  • Terri

    I had written–even in CAPS–that autism was EXTREMELY rare. It wasn’t around me (and I moved a lot–many different neighborhoods and cities). Obviously there were cases of autism, but I never saw anyone with autism growing up. I know autism–just to give some perspective here. My 17 year old son is on the autistic spectrum. At this point, he’s high functioning on the spectrum, though that came with a lot of research and mama bear stubbornness, special schooling, etc., etc.

  • Terri

    Interesting that the vac schedule had just changed. And, again, I’m saying autism was extremely rare—it wasn’t something one saw “back in the day”. Today’s rates of autism make it much more commonplace–this has been the point of my main post.

  • Carrie Jendza

    That is your experience. It is anecdotal at best and is not significantly supported by scientific evidence. But, though you hate to hear this, autism was not well-known back then and diagnosing any mental illness was rare compared to today. Just because science advances doesn’t mean that these things didn’t exist–just that we didn’t have the knowledge or technology to accurately identify the conditions (for lack of a better word). Autism is not the only diagnosis that has appeared to increase and the increase most people note is confusing causation with correlation. Which is the pitfall you have fallen into. As much as you may have moved around, your experiences with people is tiny considered to how many people were actually around at any given time.

  • Melissa

    If this story is true…I would hope someone is investigating it. If they were 3.5 months old, and they were following the recommended schedule, they should have had their first dose of those vaccines at 2 months and then nothing until they were 4 months. They had a fever afterwards which is not uncommon but they should only have received 2.5ml or a half teaspoon if they weighed 12-17 lbs, but being twins, I bet they didn’t weight that much so an even less dose of acetaminophen should have been given, rather than the double dose that they had. I would say there are several things that need to be investigated here.

  • Thekla

    This is what puzzles me. The scientists and doctors are somehow all ‘in denial’ about vaccines, and are lying and conspiring, because…you know…Big Pharma.
    But when it comes to autism rates, the scientists are suddenly all correct, and it’s ‘proven science’ and how dare you question it?
    Talk about confused!

  • Thekla

    Yes they were considered ‘retarded’, and removed from mainstream schools and so were not visible.
    No one is saying now that they were retarded – but that it was misunderstood at the time

  • um. no it’s still in the flu vaccines today.. As stated by the CDC

  • thank you. I even don’t know why I bother sometimes but I know that it helps so many despite the trolls who have flooded this story with their mindless posts (Thankfully there are many smart ones making up for it 😉 O

  • It’s a story in a published medical journal AND linked in case study above with names of the doctors and even the emails.
    PS toxicology reports did NOT show Tylenol overdose.

  • and yet it’s still relevant with twins dead in my humble opinion

  • In the US they start on day one of birth with Hep C and then continue at 3 months and on a rigorous schedule

  • The case study linked CLEARLY states on the government website that toxicology reports show zero overdose. What “other sites”? God if it were not so tragic I’d lol.

  • Just to be clear- we state RIGHT in the article if you read it where the tragedy occurred (Turkey) What other facts have we not elaborated on that you care to share? do tell.

  • James Peters

    All adverse events that are reported during clinical trials or post-approval will be listed on the package insert, regardless of whether there is good scientific reason to believe it’s due to the vaccine/drug or not.

  • Bree

    I agree with you. I am shocked at what length people go through to minimize big pharmas influence. I was personally attacked by a friend for posting this tragic event on my Fb page. All I expressed was my total sympathy for the family as we’ve experienced the loss of a newborn grandchild due to hospital error.

  • Alisha

    So where are the stupid adults now? Wouldn’t we have a shitpot full of grown adults that have been diagnosed by now if it was so prevalent and misdiagnosed?

  • christopher.miles

    Yes it was TEN years ago and it is deceptive to repost it as if it is new. It is not.

  • Irwell Pete

    Trump is a poliytrician, Big P Harma’s drugs are bad for you at any price. Don’t fall for the good cop bad cop routine ~ there are no, good cops.

  • Carrie Jendza

    Are some of my replies getting deleted? I commented twice today and do not see either comment. But (at least some) comments I made two days ago are still there (as of this moment). I’d love to know why they do not appear… They were in no way disrespectful or rude. They were not inaccurate. Thanks in advance, provided this comment does not also get removed.

  • King for a Day

    Hi Erin, can you explain why my response was removed?

    Thanks.

  • I have zero clue. I have millions of readers a month on my site and have over a dozen doctors who volunteer to help me moderate my pages. We have thousands of comments a day. I don’t know why somebody deleted your comment.

  • Miglena Kamenova-Panayotova

    Zdraveite,bih jelala da mi pishete pm v FB ako imate vazmojnost.Bih iskala da znam malko poveche za vashiq sluchai.Az imam sin na 5,sas samneniq za vaccine induced autism.Blagodarq predvaritelno.

  • Kyra

    You will never know how many fie from vaccines as the coroners wont out that on a birth certificate nor will there ever be any admittance. The pharma industry is a billion dollar industry without millions of peoples reliance on scientific medication that money wouldnt be there. Imagine a world with just hollistic medicine from nature and growing your own veg etc. This industry would rapidly decline. Read about people curing there own xancers and shrinking tumours and deoleting Lymes disease its all over the web. Search hard and use search engines Good Gopher. Dr Sebi was a famous curer if disease. Sadly he died mysteriously after veing imprisoned unfairly it seemed. There was also a famous doctor who cured Lyme Disease and he died and said he was getting hounded and he apparently killed imself. Then another doctor holistic aproach but medically trained proved in court he cureed disease again he is no longer here. Something is semingly being covered up. David Icke mentions thus there is reearch. People have learnt from birth medics should be trusted so its indoctrinated. There is proof of disease veing cured but we need to rely on nature and excersize and be brave.

  • Kyra

    Watch Vaxxed. That film did research. Remember the uproar over that. Robert De Niro was supporting it and the next minute he wasnt. Does that not give you insight into this controlling medical world.