Breaking: 4th Doctor (DO) Found Dead, Gunshot Wound to Head

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Breaking: 4th Doctor (DO) Found Dead, Gunshot Wound to Head

4th Doctor (DO) Found Dead

Breaking: UPDATE: FIFTH (5th) doctor found dead in Jacksonville Florida. Holistic alternative and only 33 years old.



SECOND UPDATE: We are now up to 11 doctors including our colleague Mitch Gaynor, MD, holistic oncologist of almost 30 yrs., found dead in the woods outside his home. They say it’s “suicide”. We’ll update with a full recap shortly. That’s at least 11 doctors in less than 90 days (far more died in that time but not ones who appear suspicious).

Lisa Riley, DO (Doctor of Osteopathic), from Lee County Georgia, was found dead with a gunshot wound to her head. She was an emergency room physician at Phoebe Putney Memorial Hospital in the state of Georgia. She was only 34. Besides being an Osteopath, I have no idea if she had any holistic or “alternative” training or beliefs. Our heart goes out to her family and loved ones. Husband called it into 911, husband had been charged with attempted murder before but it was determined he was framed and charges dropped (see links at bottom for that story).

It’s so hard for me to break these stories as I feel for their friends. family and loved ones. I also have been with a well known and outspoken Doctor of Osteopath myself for the last 6 years. We knew some of these doctors and it’s beyond tragic.

We are sorry to announce the news that brings the total to 9 doctors, missing or found dead, in less than a month. We have Dr. Bradstreet (who was also residing in Georgia but had previously been in Florida) who was found with a gunshot wound to his chest. Dr. Bradstreet was an outspoken, alternative MD and well known in the Autism community. He’d helped many autistic children including his own child and was loved by many. It brought me no joy to break that story as I knew him and had many friends in common with this great man.  Then Dr. Hedendal, DC, PhD (Harvard) found slumped over in his car. He’d come from an athletic event and was in perfect shape. He also had a radio show about anti-aging and said that he expected to live well beyond the average age of death for men (in their 70’s). He was only in his mid 60’s and very fit and healthy, as his personal friends have told me as well as someone who worked in his office. Again, it was very sad to break that story, and like Dr. Bradstreet, I waited to do so until it was publicly announced by the family or funeral homes online.  His photos show the toned physique of an athlete. The third is Dr. Teresa Sievers who, just days ago, was found murdered in her home in Bonita Springs, Florida.  It brought me no joy to break the story about all three alternative doctors found dead in less than two weeks. It was also tough to announce that there are 5 doctors that have gone missing in less than a month.

Dr. Sievers’ case (the last to be found dead before Dr. Riley) still has not been solved. In fact, the Sheriff who is leading the investigation said publicly (which has been in mainstream news) that she was definitely targeted. He also said that when the whole story comes out with all its intricacies that, “books and movies will be made about her murder”, as it’s such a huge story. We have no idea what that means nor proof that it is connected with the other deaths or 5 missing doctors.

At this time, no one has been arrested.



Here’s a quote from the article on Dr. Lisa Riley, DO:

An autopsy at the Georgia Bureau of Investigation crime lab on the body of 34-year-old Doctor Lisa Riley reveals that her cause of death was a gunshot wound to the head, according to the GBI. She was found dead in her home in the Nort hampton subdivision in Lee County on Friday.

An autopsy conducted by the GBI crime lab in Macon revealed that the cause of Mrs. Riley’s death was a gunshot wound to the head.  The manner of death is still under investigation as agents continue to process the scene of the incident and conduct numerous interviews. 

Investigators stayed there most of the weekend, gathering evidence in her mysterious death. Her husband, 32-year old Yathomas Riley, called 911 around 8:30 a.m. Friday, and said he found her dead.

The husband is being held at the jail on an unrelated charge. So far he, nor anyone else, has been charged with murder. Interestingly the husband was charged with attempted murder before, held for 2 years with no trial and in the end it was determined he was (allegedly) FRAMED and was released. All charges were then dropped. He’d already sat in a jail cell for 2 years without a trial, but then was back to being a star in the boxing ring. Again residue was found on his ex’s hand but not on his. With this second VERY similar case we cannot make a call on his wife’s death until an investigation is complete. It’s very tragic. His wife leaves behind their 9 month old baby.

We will update you as we know more about the case.

Our heart goes out to the family and loved ones of all the doctors including Dr. Lisa Riley.

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  • homebody

    Sadly, it looks to be just another case of domestic violence taken to the extreme. I’d bet dollars to donuts the husband shot her, given his history reported here:
    http://m.walb.com/walb/db_330714/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=jAW7SKyQ

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  • Have they ruled out self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head? They can test for gunpowder on her hands.

  • It appears that either she (herself) or her husband caused this death. If the husband is telling the truth, then she killed herself. That is what he said. The only reason that he would lie, is if he killed her or maybe a friend of his killed her.

  • Amennone Cero

    The GBI is a profoundly corrupt crew. Traffickers and liars everyone of them. losethename.com

  • Rebecca Howell

    Women don’t shoot themselves in the head. Doesn’t happen.

  • HisCrownJewel

    She’s an anti-vaxer, like the other dead or missing doctors. Connect the dots, or do you really think we’re having a rash of suicidal doctors that oppose vaccines. Yes, this many dead and missing holistic deliverers of truth could be a coincidence, yes it could.

  • Sandra Bell

    Of course all these murders are not coincidences. Of course, the culprits will get away with their crimes. They are in charge of those who are hand picked to do the “investigations”. This insidious brainwashing, dividing and conquering of the masses has been percolating and brewing for some time. Now we see the grand finale — their blatant, aggressive grabbing of complete control over every individual bloodstream.

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  • I’m not sure yet. Will let you know what they find.

  • Joshua

    wait for it, some how Ospama will blame Bush

  • Deeper

    “He’d helped many autistic children” False. He tortured children to swindle money from their parents. I don’t know which was more vile between unnecessary chelation (which can cause cancer) or stem cell fraud. Because it is illegal in the US, he worked in Kiev to inject stem cells that would somehow gain super powers shrink down and cross the blood brain barrier, and then get more super powers to migrate to the damaged neurons in autism to replace them. Except histological studies have shown that autism doesn’t have damaged neurons. Autism has an overgrowth of synapses. Autism doesn’t need treatment, it needs understanding. Bradstreet was a monster. Stop trying to make him an unsung hero.

  • cbb1430

    This is a crap article. The only shred of truth in this is the fact that the woman was a doctor. Her pos husband did this and he’s nothing but a thug that’s already gotten away with attempting to murder the mother of his other child.
    http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/three-years-after-boxer-yathomas-riley-was-cleared-in-one-shooting-hes-tied-to-another-7752937

  • Maria G

    Obviously Monsanto and Dow Henchmen are trying to stop the truth about dangerous chem poisons in our foods.. most likely Blackwater actions..

  • Lindaxox

    ‘Autism doesn’t need treatment, it needs understanding’ Are you kidding, that’s another way of saying – just accept it. Many have been helped with treatment, even restored back to functioning at a high level. You have to be a paid shill or grossly mininformed.

  • Ross Blankert

    It is very unhealthy to go up against government mandates. People disappear or are shot accidentally who don’t go along with government regulations included in Obamacare which should be named people control. There is no care and Obama is not going to be included in it or any of his gay brothers.

  • Deeper

    Linda, I take great offense at 3 statements you made. First of all, yes, I am saying “just accept it.” Accept me. Second and third, I am not a paid shill (wish I were), or misinformed. In fact, I am expert on autism. I’m an autistic adult in my mid-30s. Happily married to an NT. I’ve dealt with autism my entire life and I am absolutely horrified by these attempts to “cure” it. I am also a psychologist currently researching for a book on the neurophysiology of autism. I am well read in the literature. Please allow me to explain this to you.

    Autism results from a hyper-connected brain. For example, you have 100,000,000,000 neurons. Cortical neurons have around 10,000 synapses. Autistic cortical neurons might have up to 15,000 or 20,000 synapses. The hyper-connectivity results in hyper-sensation. All senses are amplified to degrees of information influx that the rest of the brain cannot handle. The overload of perceptual information interferes with the higher cognitive executive functioning such as working memory, selective attention, planning, inhibition, and social skills. There is a small developmental window during early childhood development where the brain learns how to read social information. Since the autistic brain is dealing with the intense environment, it misses out on the opportunity to develop social skills.

    As you can this accounts for the entire spectrum. The more densely connected the brain is, the more “autistic” the individual becomes. But by tweaking the environment, you can reduce the symptoms. For example, if a clock is ticking, an autistic individual will have a difficult time concentrating on a task, such as reading or writing. The brain will be overloaded with audio sensory information and that information literally steals attention. White noise in headphones can drown out the noise and allow for clearity in processing. Ceiling lights might be exceptionally intense for autistics and this visual information also taxes out executive functions. Yellow tinted glasses can work wonders on increasing focus and attention.

    Bradstreet, on the other hand, flat out lied with the claim that autism is caused by the mercury in vaccines. Wrong for the following reasons. First of all, autism has prenatal origins from a combination of genetics and epigentic insults (only in 70% of homozygous twins are both siblings autistic). Second, unlike methylmercury found in fish, ethylmercury does not accumulate in the body. If the mercury hypothesis were true, you would see huge incidences of autism with fish eaters. You get waaaaaay more mercury in your diet than you do from a vaccine. So Bradstreet performed chelation on kids to remove heavy metals from the body, despite the body not having them in the first place. Very dangerous way to scam parents. I mentioned his stem cell fraud in Kiev in my previous post. He got busted and days later ended up dead. It’s a shame he won’t face justice for his crimes against my community.

    So what about the parents claiming that his treatment worked? 2 answers for you. The first is placebo. There is always a placebo effect present in every treatment. Parents invested a lot of money and desperation into those treatments. The second is that the kids were tortured and they wanted it to stop, so they learned to “correct” their behaviors. Us autistics are very bright and capable of faking neurotypicality when our lives are at stake.

    Source:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3010743/?tool=pubmed

  • This is horrible and scary….

  • riki_tiki_tavi

    troll

  • sequence

    Don’t bather to converse with deeper! It is not even real people! All of them fictional beings ASTROTURF! Don’t spend your valuable time and energy! Autism can be cured with detoxing! We all know it! End of story!

  • JGC

    Details please, Linda: what treatments are you claiming have been effective, and how exactly has it been factually established the improvements you believe many have exhibited (up to and including being “restored back to functioning at a high level”) actually were due to their having received these teatments?

  • kariharper

    What? You people are batsh*t crazy. Seriously.

  • Evelyn Glover

    Just trace the money as to who benefits with these deaths. If enough are killed it will lead to the fact that no one wants to oppose vaccines and we will be left to the mercy of these horror Dr.’s you see in movies. Orwell’s 1984?

  • Evelyn Glover

    Any sign of gun powder can be planted………………you know, like someone putting the gun in your hand and making you pull the trigger. Maybe some lie detector tests are in order.

  • JGC

    Sequence, your evidence demonstrating that autism can be cured by detoxing would be what, exactly? Be specific.
    I mean, you do have some–right?

  • David Taylor

    Orwell’s book has become a training manual instead of a dystopian fantasy novel.

  • David Taylor

    Deeper–Where are the 5000 swindled families speaking out against Dr. Bradstreet? You sound like a scientist–“Autism has an overgrowth of synapses”–so I’m hoping you can help us find these wronged families and damaged children.

  • David Taylor

    Most parents, including me, who were Dr. Bradstreet’s patients, have everything you ask for, from lab results to school records. But we would never show them to a troll like you. To all the non-trolls reading this, our son’s elementary teachers were so impressed by our son’s rapid progress under Dr. Bradstreet, my wife was invited to speak at a faculty meeting and PTA about autism treatments. The teachers keep using words like “miracle” and “can’t believe it’s the same child” and truly wanted to know how our son changed so much in just one year. Keep in mind these were experienced educators who taught autistic children every day.

  • Veronica Mars

    She was in an abusive relationship for years and he likely killed her. This has nothing to do with health news. Please stop reporting on what you don’t know and creating propaganda where it doesn’t belong. There are family and friends who miss her and we don’t need a rousing game of the Internet version of Telephone. Have some fucking compassion.

  • Suzanne DomesticGoddess

    Yes, my son needs to be accepted, not fixed. I love him and his autism. While we are at it, I am also fine with being physically disabled. It’s how God made us and I have accepted it. Why do able bodied people always want to pity us or fix us? Ableism is wrong and in a world where every other form of discrimination is shunned, it’s time for this kind of hate to stop too.

  • Suzanne DomesticGoddess

    Fool

  • JGC

    “Most parents, including me, who were Dr. Bradstreet’s patients, have everything you ask for, from lab results to school records. But we would never show them to a troll like you. “

    I trust you realize that evidence one is unwilling or unable to provide in support of claims they’ve made is the functional equivalent of no evidence whatsoever.

    “To all the non-trolls reading this, our son’s elementary teachers were so impressed by our son’s rapid progress under Dr. Bradstreet, my wife was invited to speak at a faculty meeting and PTA about autism treatments. “

    How has it been factually established that the rapid progress your son exhibited and which you beleive was a result of any treatment provided by Dr. Bradstreet actually was due to the rtreatment received? I would hope it’s on some basis other than a post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.

    As for calling me a ‘troll’, you’re using the term wrong. I’m not being deliberately provocative to cause a disruption or generate argument. Linda made a specific claim that treatments exist which are known to be effective at either curing autism or ameliorating the behavioral symptoms associated with ASD’s (she was clear which she meant by “Many have been helped with treatment, even restored back to functioning at a high level.”) I’m simply trying to discuss the evidence that has led her to reach that conclusion.

  • Corey Gray

    Not all of us are born disabled, and most of us who aren’t would dearly LOVE to be “fixed”.
    But since it can’t be done (or it would have been done), yes, the “pity” aspect drives us nuts.

  • Lindaxox

    It’s a definite thread I’ve seen a few times – changing the perception that vaccines have nothing to do with it, god made them that way, it’s genetic…just accept it. Too too much evidence, it wasn’t god it was the drug company. Did god make the thalidomide babies??

  • Lindaxox

    Yet all it would take is a lot more speaking out and the horror of it would be over.

  • Kenneth Lo

    As a father watching my daughters mind slip away to a autistic state after receiving the MMR vaccination I am awake. I wanted to believe that the government would not allow this to happen I had faith that the vaccination scandal was a conspiracy theory . But now I see the truth. The powers that be big pharma is about the bottom line profit. The government backs them by not being able to sue them for vaccination injuries or death. We all want to put our heads in the sand and think about whats on tv tonight. But things are out of control with the cdc and Merck vaccinations tied together and the 46 billion a year industry the taxes from the sales goes into a program called VICP vaccine injury compensation program. Its a big sham to the American people I believe it is population control at its finest. And we think who is winning American Idol tonight. Im glad some people are waking up but Im tired of the ones that deign the truth and the paid bloggers online to discredit the parents that have been affected by vaccination injuries. My daughter was born healthy now after the vaccination she has been brain damaged that’s is the truth I swear to GOD!

  • JGC

    “Too too much evidence, it wasn’t god it was the drug company.”
    What evidence would that be, Linda?

    “Did god make the thalidomide babies??”
    No, and as no one is arguing that god did, one must ask: did you have a point?

  • Lindi

    I apologize for my ignorance but in this article the word “outspoken” is used as if these doctors were crusaders against something… What is it exactly. The article seems like it is trying to be objective but keeps eluding to something. I guess because I am not a regular to this site, I am missing the link that would make this make sense. Could someone fill me in to the conspiracy here?

  • Lindaxox

    Can you read? Look it up

  • Thank God for Obamacare.If not for that my daughter would have lived a life of misery.

  • Lindaxox

    WRONG! Any proof?

  • So sorry to hear about your daughter.I too have seen many a child and adult damaged from a shot.Unfortunately we have other things to really worry about.Republicans have passed laws lately that let polluter pollute,farmers to plant gmo poison corn and beans and don’t have to label them as gmo and those who sell meat do not have to state where it comes from.They are killing our next generation.

  • CJ

    ISIS-DC has killed off many banker CEOs and now they are killing doctors! God help us all!

  • Lindaxox

    If you don’t speak about vaccines as “miracles” and stick to the overdone schedule no matter what then you are not in their game, if not with them then you are against them and they are afraid it could spread and affect their profits. They know all about autism and other serious affects.

  • Gretchen Saaduddin

    Maybe you need to continue to research this subject instead of just settling. You actually think Big Pharma or the FDA cares about you, or your child. Get real. You need to be proactive. It is pretty easy to figure out who funded these hits.

    http://www.charliefoundation.org/ketogenic-therapy/therapies-2/autism

  • I’d be careful about libeling the man. If you read the pieces and evidence you’ll see that in the last case there was gunshot residue on the woman’s hand and not on his and her stories were inconsistent and his were consistent all along. Hence the reason charges were dropped. Calling her husband and father of a child a “thug” when he hasn’t even been charged is jumping the gun. I’ll wait to see if he’s charged and an actual TRIAL we have here in the US before deciding if the man is guilty. or not.

  • Larry Mccoy

    she was executed

  • Vassiliki

    The way he treated autistic children is not the scope of this article. It is about DO being murdered in a relative short time frame of one another. She just mentioned what some of his accomplishments were.

  • Susie Smith Dial

    Really? Maureen are you so blind and ignorant to believe that there is a difference between the DNC and RNC? The democrats are just as much in the pockets of lobbyists as the republicans. As a whole, they should be called crooked politicians. What we need are statesmen not politicians.

  • Susie Smith Dial

    No need to wait. Just saw it. ugh

  • Vassiliki

    Ken, I am sorry to hear about your daughter. It is so tragic and so many people boohoo anti- vaxers. I work in the school system and have for many years. As time goes on I see more and more damaged children. So many slow students that really try but cannot keep up with the average pace of the class. They look like any other kid, their behavior is fine, but just very slow. My heart goes out to them because I wonder how will they be able to compete and get by in the real world. It is a growing problem and I do not see an end to this current situation. I see this population growing more and more. I have no proof but I think it is the vaccines as well as poor nutrition (chemically laden food).

  • Ron Angell

    Back in 2009- Dr. Joseph Moshe Exposes Vaccination Genocide by Baxter Pharmaceuticals that caused the deaths of over 2,000,000 Ukrainians that were forced vaccinated. Unfortunately Dr. Joseph Moshe was attacked and you can watch the youtube video of the attack in Los Angeles in this youtube video – https://youtu.be/djdBDfGjTpQ

  • HiYaFriend

    I’m thinking that BigPharma did not like their studies….at all.

  • JGC

    Linda didn’t address Dr. Bradstreet’s accomplishments, Vassiliki: instead she made a general statement that effective treatments for autism exist. I’m simply trying to identify what treatments have been shown to be effective, and what evidence has demonstrated their efficacy

  • JGC

    Obviously, Linda, I can read–we’re communicating via the written word, remember–but surely you realize it’s the responsibility of the person making a claim to provide evidence in its support, not the responsibility of others to try to prove the claim is in fact valid?

  • JGC

    Gretchen, to the best of my knowledge it hasn’t been established that Dr. Bradstreet’s death was a homicide rather than a suicide, nor that any of these recent deaths are related.

  • JGC

    Proof of what, Linda? It’s unclear from your post what evidence you’re requesting.

  • JGC

    “Of course all these murders are not coincidences.”

    Snadra, what indicates all these deaths were homicides (Dr. Bradstreet’s appears to be a suicide), or suggests they’re anything other than coincidences?

  • JGC

    What studies would those be, HiYaFriend? I’m unable to find any studies by Lisa Riley indexed in Pubmed, for example.

  • Vassiliki

    Her statement said that Dr. Bradstreet helped many autistic children including his own. This article does not delve into specific treatments for autism it was a general statement as you said of what he was able to accomplish in his practice and with his patients. To identify what treatments exist that you need to research on your own. The treatments for autism once again is not the scope of this article.

  • Vassiliki

    Maureen, that is a callous answer to someone whose daughter became autistic due to a MMR vaccination! So our chemically laden food is a more important issue than someone’s child that is damaged due to vaccinations? Shame on you! Have some heart! And vaccinations are doing a great job of killing and damaging this generation! All for the sake of money!!!!!!!
    The combo vaccinations are the most dangerous (MMR, DPT) and parents can request to have them given as single shots- this is FYI for other parents that may be reading this and want to vaccinate their children but on a safer plan. I would also not vaccinate before age 2- as they do in Japan and don’t clump vaccinations together! I am not going to debate with anyone how I got this info. I did my research over 15 years ago when I became pregnant with my first child. I researched and decided not to vaccinate. SO if you want info, go get it yourself like I did and spent countless hours weighing the pros and cons of whether to vaccinate or not. It was not an easy decision.

  • mot

    Bradstreet, my son’s former doctor, did not use chelation techniques on my son, or even offer them to me. He knew very well that my child is fully vaccinated and did not even discuss chelating him. Be careful about what what you accuse him of.

  • Michelle Moore

    Sounds like an angry loved one is taken them out because someone died in their care. The doctors tried to save them and there was nothing they could do.

  • stylebox5

    If this doctor was working in the ER of a hospital, it’s highly unlikely she was practicing holistic or alternative medicine. The author said herself that she has no idea if she was involved in this type of medicine and was making assumptions based on the fact that the doctor was an osteopath. Many of the GPs in my town are osteopaths and there is absolutely no difference between them and traditional doctors. I just fired my last GP – an osteopath – because he had a God complex and a closed mind and was truly the worst doctor I’ve ever encountered. This is one of the most ridiculous conspiracy theories I’ve ever read. Doesn’t take much to lead people to the wrong conclusion.

  • stylebox5

    Of course it happens. Firearms are the number one method of suicide in both men and women. Some studies suggest that women are less likely to shot themselves in the head than men but to say it doesn’t happen is a lie.

  • Sandra Bell

    I carefully read all the initial news coverage on each death and disappearance. What family, friends and colleagues have said, as well as how the victim was found. I don’t believe for one minute all these holistic medical doctors and health practitioners are suddenly offing themselves. It will be interesting to see how the “investigations” will ultimately turn out. The powers-that-be own the media, so why wouldn’t they have their hands in everything else, including investigations and their outcomes?

  • HopeFaith

    Individual vaccines are no longer and option in the US. Sadly.

  • James Pittman

    Maureen you are a sheeple. Because of the DEMOCRAT UN and WTO America was fucking sued in the WTO as being discriminatory for requiring country of origin on packaging by Mexico and Canada. You know those fucking trade agreements you PRETENDACRATS LIKE TO TOUT. Just because it is a republican congress right now does not mean they did it. We lost the lawsuit. blame your weak ass DNC for instituting all these world organizations thinking everyone thinks like us. Would you care to discuss who started the UN and the WTO? fucking sheep are so stupid….

  • Deeper

    I haven’t accused him of anything he hasn’t openly peddled. Here’s a great piece of journalism that spells out clearly his scumminess. Nothing on his stem cell fraud or chelation treatments, but GcMAF is some pretty terrible stuff. Please read this article:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/16/the-mysterious-death-of-a-doctor-who-peddled-autism-cures-to-thousands/

  • JGC

    I’m not aware that anyone is arguing they’re all ‘offing themselves’, but I’m not clear what evidence in the initial news coverage argues that these deaths are connected in any way–could you be a bit clearer why you beleive they are? As for ‘powers that-be-own the media’, “They’ve been murdered because CONSPIRACY THEORY” doesn’t really bring much to the discussion.

  • JGC

    No, Linda’s statement didn’t claim Bradstreet had helped many autistic children, only that “Many have been helped with treatment, even restored back to functioning at a high level.” It isn’t necesary for me to conduct ‘research on my own’ to try to find evidence support this claim she’s made, since In order to offer it with any degree of intellectual integrity she must be aware of not only what theses treatments are but how it was established those treatments actually were the cause of any improved function observed.

    I’m certainly open to being convinced she’s correct–in fact, I’d be overjoyed if there did exist safe and effective treatments which could improve the quality of life of thosediagosed with autism spectrum disorders–but it will take a reasonable body of credilbe evidence to do so.
    As for “not the scope of the article”, i suggest you address LInda regarding that criticism as she’s the one who brought up the subject, not me.

  • JGC

    Sorry for the duplicate posts.

  • Teach2020

    Dr. Riley’s husband was a former boxer and his previous girlfriend died with a gunshot to the head, while he was in the home. He had been charged recently with beating up his wife, Dr. Riley.

  • PithHelmut

    And Democrats say nothing.

  • JGC

    Linda, what evidence suggests that the recommended childhood vaccination schedule is ‘overdone’?

    As for affecting profits, reduced compliance with recommended vaccination might result in reduced profit if the return on investment for marketing vaccines was greater than the return on investment for marketing treatments for diseases once acquired, but that isn’t the case.
    A 2005 study on the economic impact of routine childhood immunization in the United States, for example, found that for every dollar spent the vaccination program saved more than $5 in direct costs and approximately $11 in additional costs (such as lost productivity) to society (see PMID: 16330737)

  • RogerDodger

    This is the most ridiculous theory. The woman was battered for months before this happened. The husband was connected to a previous shooting! Check his public FB, he is obsessed with guns.
    Erin Elizabeth, you’re a moron for writing this.

  • chellethesouthernbelle

    As the mother of a moderately handicapped son, I’d love to find a way to “fix” him, I have accepted that he will always be my baby with the mind of about a 3-4 yr old, but if there was a cure or fix, I’d be the first in line…who wants to deprive their child of a normal life? Of better health? Who wants to pass on the burden of their care to someone when the parent passes? Yes we accept them but there is absolutely nothing wrong wanting a better life for your child!!!

  • chellethesouthernbelle

    Considering that is really the root of this article is “They’ve been murdered because CONSPIRACY THEORY”, then I’d say Sandra is only adding to the discussion.

  • JGC

    If her posts took the form of “The following evidence demonstrates that all of these individuals were murdered, that their deaths are connected, that the following powers-that-be own the media, have ability to compromise the findings of the independent investigations into their deaths such that they can dictate the outcome of those investigations”, I’d agree.
    As it is, however, all she’s done is assert the existence of a connection, conspirators and a conspiracy.

  • Deeper

    David, thanks for the compliment. It feels good to be called a scientist.

    Also, Washington Post published a good piece on Bradstreet. Of course you’ll probably shrug it off as “paid shills from big pharma.” Read this and get back to me:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/16/the-mysterious-death-of-a-doctor-who-peddled-autism-cures-to-thousands/

  • Deeper
  • JGC

    While I understand that Ken believes the MMR vaccination caused his daughter to become autistic, and I don’t have no reason to doubht she has an autism spectrum disorder, I’m curious how Ken’s established that her autism was caused by the vaccine she received. I’d hope it’s on some basis other than a post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.

  • Deeper

    Kenneth, I can say without a doubt that your daughter isn’t losing her mind from the vaccine because that is impossible.
    If her mind is rapidly regressing, she might have Rhett syndrome. If so, I am terribly sorry.

    If she has autism, congratulations. Now go study autism so you can nurture her with love instead of trying to “cure” her with a life of unnecessary torture.

    This paper explains autism better than anything else out there. It will be a tremendous help:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3010743/?tool=pubmed

  • Deeper

    JGC, look around. We’ve stumbled into a zone with users who believe that vaccines cause autism and that autism can be cured. They think anyone who doesn’t agree with them is a “paid shill.” Critical thinking levels are at a low. Science is bad. Scientific methodology? Heresy. It’s coo coo for coco puffs out here and we’re not going to bring rationality or reason to anyone.

  • Vassiliki

    I didn’t know! That is horrible not giving the parents that option. I haven’t done too much research in recent years. But now I am concerned because NJ just passed a law this year that they will no longer accept religious exemptions for vaccinations for children to enter or continue public school.

  • Vassiliki

    It is not my concern how curious you are. Ken’s daughter is now autistic after receiving the MMR vaccine and that is a tragedy. My response was to Maureen and her callousness with her words about Ken’s daughter and saying that pollution and gmo foods are more important issues than his damaged daughter. Freaking callous typical democrap!

  • CaligulasRuin

    Deeper, if you just look at her post history you will see that any sort of reason or logic will be ineffective against her irrationality and specific brand of anti-science and anti-establishment crazy.

  • CaligulasRuin

    Get ready for a wall of text that was copy and pasted from anti-vax propaganda sites. That said, be sure to vet her sources and quotations carefully.

  • Misty

    Maureen/ I cannot believe what I just read. Not to worry about these poor little babies being shot up with any where from ten to twenty poison chemicals ? But your worried more about GMO etc. ? It’s obvious every one is going to be killed off.

  • misty

    Vassiliki: Years ago we made our own choices about our childrens vaccines how-ever today all vaccines are mandatory also CDC gives as many shots as they feel like, any where from ten to twenty shots all at once.Babies are becoming veggies or just dying off from these shots. It really breaks my heart to hear what is happening right in front of our eyes. Also the doctors that are refusing to do these shots because of too many at once are being shot (killed)There has been a Rally in California against CDC and to “NOT” have these vaccines mandatory.Also to give parents back their rights to make their own choices.

  • misty

    JGC: Haven’t you been in face book chat forums? Geesh dude//dudette there are many mothers in vaccine injury room/s go see for your self,these women are all shot to hell over the conditions of their child or children because of these killer shots. Take your blinders off and go see for your self.

  • JoeB

    So you’re okay with your child not reaching his full potential if it were possible his autism could be reversed? Sad!

    I’m sick of the word “hate” being thrown around every time someone has a differing opinion. It’s not “hate”. It’s having a discussion. I don’t have to accept your opinion and you don’t have to accept mine but it is my no means “hate.”

    God bless

  • misty

    HisCrownJewel; I agree with you 100%

  • misty

    Evelyn Glover// It isn’t the doctors doing this,it’s CDC Doctors are Opposing these poison vaccines that’s why Drs. are being killed.

  • Vassiliki

    This whole mandatory vaccine thing makes me sick to my stomach. My girls are 14 and 15 and have not been vaccinated. A friend of mine told me that they won’t be able to go to college without vaccinations. This is a very serious dilemma for me and I am sure for others with children. Parents are losing control in many aspects of their children’s well being, health protocol, emotional and mental well being as well with all the propaganda they put in their minds in school. I home schooled for the first 7 and 8 years of their schooling but then due to financial reasons I had to send them to school. This summer for their summer reading a book was chosen for all high schoolers and it has the parents up in arms. It talked about masturbation in a crude way and how these kids got off as well as making fun of God and saying he is just a fairy tale like the easter bunny and santa claus. This is outrageous for a school to assign such a book! Enough parents complained that they gave us an alternative book for their summer reading. All these issues together is making it very hard to raise children today as well as stripping our rights away and indoctrinating our children in a very liberal manner.

  • riki_tiki_tavi

    not healthnutnews being the troll. the dude that wrote the comment i replied to. durrr

  • riki_tiki_tavi

    you and the writer of this article both called me a fool for defending one of the doctors this article is about by calling out the heckler out as a troll. what in all fuck?

  • riki i’m confused. Where did i do this?

  • Maryjane William

    War is big business.
    Big business is war
    Conventional Medicine is big business

  • JGC

    Exactly, Vassiliki: after, when ‘after’ is not synonymous with ‘because of’. Yet for some reason Ken’s seems to be inferring cause-and-effect, and try as I might I cannot understand why.

  • JGC

    “Babies are becoming veggies or just dying off from these shots.”
    You’re evidence that the vaccinations received are causing children to become ‘veggeis or just dying off’ would be what, misty?

  • JGC

    Vassiliki. why have your daughters not been vaccinated, given that failing to be vaccinated demonstrably places them at significantly inceased risk of contracting a serious illness?

  • JGC

    How have you determined Lisa Riley was anti-vaccine? I haven’t seen any new reports identifying her position re: vaccination, either for or against.

  • JGC

    Certainly if there were good evidence that the problematic behaviors associated with autismspectrum disorders could be reversed the quality of life of both autistics and their family members would be improved.

    At this time however there aren’t a lot ofinterventions that have shown promise of succes–and, unfortuantely, a lot of interventions (chelation, GcMAF, MMS, hyperbaric oxygen, etc.) that are promoted as successful despite no evidence that is the case and solid evidence demonstrating associated risk .

  • JGC

    Uhh–Ron? The man in this video is named Joseph Moshe, but he isn’t a microbiologist and he isn’t associated with the MOSSAD–he’s an American born in 1952 who is seen here being arrested in Los Angeles for making threats against the White House.

    Your source has confused him with an Israeli citizen with a different but similar name–Dr. Moshe Bar-Joseph, born in 1939, who’s a biologist specializing in plant virology (his focus seems to be on fruit-bearing trees). Dr. Bar-Joseph does not appear to be associated with any intelligence agency (a 2014 publication indicates he’s employed by the virology department of the Tolkowsky Laboratory, part of the Plant Protection Institute in Bet Dagan, Israel).

  • JGC

    I have no blinders on, misty, and I’m aware that there are many individuals–both mothers and fathers–who sincerely believe that their children were injured by vaccines they received. What I’m unaware of is evidence demonstrating what they believe to be true actually is true, or that their belief is basoed on anything other than post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacies ([perhaps seasoned with a pinch of “But what else could it have been?”).

    I’ll also note that with respect to those who believe that autism represents a vaccine injury, their belief flies in the face of a very large body of evidence–including very large scale retrospective epidemiologic studies, conducted by independent researchers associated with multiple public and private public health agencies in multiple nations–which rebut the existence of a causal association between routine childhood vaccination and autism spectrum or other neurodevelopmental disorders.

  • JGC

    Given that unconventional medicine is big business as well–Boiron, the world’s leading manufacturer and distributor of homeopathic products, for example, generated more than 600 million euros in sales in 2013 and 2014 and is well on pace to do at least as well in 2015–one must ask–did you have a point?

  • Dosangel

    Vassiliki,
    First of all, you ARE CORRECT about parents being able to make the choice of single vaccinations. Doctors do not typically stock the single vaccinations and often tell patients that the single vaccinations are not available. Its a little white lie, they just aren’t available in the doctor’s stock at that time. What they don’t tell you is that the single vaccinations CAN be special ordered, they are slightly a little higher cost, insurance still pays the same, and the doctor’s office just doesn’t want to make the special order and usually from a different supplier than they normally use. Parents can hold their ground and request the single vaccinations or they can choose to find a doctor who IS willing to take the extra precautions.
    Secondly, on school exemptions, schools/states may take away the religious exemptions for vaccinations (this is a different battle that Im not discussing) but they can’t take away the MEDICAL exemption. If a family already has a person, of any age, that is on the autism spectrum then the family can use that on a MEDICAL Predisposition Exemption. There are plenty of highly educated famous physicians that have documented studies that have been published in medical journals that show that there IS a connection between a pre-dispositioned children and taking the multiple vaccines vs single vaccines vs. no vaccines.
    A good example are my four sons: My oldest two son are from one father. My second two sons, TWINS, are from a different father. My oldest two sons do not have autism on either side of the their family trees. They took all of their vaccinations and they were multiple vaccinations and they were not affected. My younger two sons are twins. There is autism with their immediate aunt and uncle on their father’s side. Information, I wish I knew before vaccinating these two children. These two children became violently sick each time they were vaccinated. Each time the doctor passed it off as they must of caught a virus at the same time as they got the vaccination. 103-4 temp, massive diarrhea & throwing up. On the third round of vaccinations, I DID request a single vaccination, unfortunately the physician took advantage of the situation and only gave one INJECTION. Children often receive 2 or 3 injections and each of these are usually multiples like the MMR is 1 injection but 3 immunizations in 1 injection. The single injection that the twins received that day was a 5 in 1 injection that again made them violently ill and landed one twin in the hospital. We chose to wait until they were older to continue their vaccinations and it was the doctor who brought up the idea of waiting until they were older. So, my twins did not receive any more vaccinations for a while…we were going to wait until they are 2 years old or later to finish the vaccinations. By the time they turned 2, one of the twins was already autistic so we did not continue any vaccinations. By the time the other twin was 6 he was classified as severely ADHD & High end autistic. I thank God every day that I stopped the vaccinations when I did. And I wish everyday that I had know the difference between asking for a single vaccination vs. a single injection. Each year I have to file through the school for a medical exemption and I attach a letter describing the history of the vaccinations of the boys and their family pre-disposition. My boys are in the 3rd grade and that medical exemption has been approved each year. Hope this helps someone. And for those of you who are for vaccinations, I want you to know that I am also for vaccinations but I do not believe that doctors are taking into consideration family backgrounds that can be red flags to indicate taking a different, slower, and safer approach to vaccinating those children who might be pre-dispositioned.
    And that should be malpractice!!

  • Dosangel

    Back to the murdered doctors and the missing doctors…..sure sounds like a serial killer or something linking these doctors. Surely, someone like the FBI is investigating this and looking for common threads like a family member of a patient that has been seen by each of them or pharmaceutical company who wants to shut them up.

  • JGC

    Your observations are good support for autism’s origin being genetic, but I’m not seeing how it supports a causal association with vaccination.

    There is, after all, no reason to believe your younger sons would not now exhibit the same behaviors to the same extant if they hadn’t been vaccinated.

  • JGC

    What suggests the killings are linked in any way, Dosangel, other than the fact that they were all health care providers and died within a relatively small time frame?

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  • Lindaxox

    The US is the most vccinated country in the developed world and also has the highest infant mortality rate and very high for children under 5. Right there something is very wrong, no excuses. The countries who vaccinate the least have the lowest infant mortality rates. There is an important clue. A study done in Ontario Canada of hospital visits after vaccinations was shockingly high, much higher than if the child had chickenpox or measles. Not long ago almost every child had chickenpox and measles and you never even saw a Dr and yes they were childhood diseases with very few complications. People are getting sicker and sicker, hundreds of thousands killed by prescription drugs, many thousands injured by vaccines, many deaths. No real studies designed to really study the safety and long term effects. 1 in 50 with autism, this went from 1 in 10,000 only 30 yrs ago. This was unknown and now it’s everywhere. Ask any long term teacher, check minutes of any schoolboards, it wasn’t even mentioned, no special schools or classes. The science is getting overwhelming, so is the evidence that these vaccines are now doing more harm than good. If not for the billions spent on bullies, bribes, threats, false advertising, PR and marketing and media blackouts the dangers of vaccines would have been common knowledge. The drug industry has been fined billions for all of the of fences and criminal activity mentioned above. This is tobacco science and lies. Many worked for both industries. It’s all documentated and more, sure you can find it.

  • Lindaxox

    Get real there are 1.3 million with autism with similar stories. No studies have ever been designed to find out why. Some of these parents are Drs and scientists themselves. They know what happened.

  • Lindaxox

    You are a joke and paid troll

  • Lindaxox

    It’s nonsense, read the study from Canada. You have any idea how much it cost to take care of all the injuries from vaccines? A small % is represented at The Vaccine Injury Court that has paid out 3.7 billion and that is taxpayers money as the billion $ drug companies are not responsible for any injury or damage their products cause.

  • Lindaxox

    You trolls are too much. If the drug companies were not corrupt they wouldn’t need you.

  • CaligulasRuin

    ^^ Called it. ^^

  • CaligulasRuin

    Pay no attention to Linda. She’s a paid shill that’s in Mike Adams’ pocket. Isn’t right, Linda?

  • CaligulasRuin

    Good. I guess Christy isn’t a complete moron.

  • CaligulasRuin

    I believe it was the blankets. Undoubtedly every autistic child was wrapped in a blanket at some point after birth but before the onset of the autism, and thus it must be the blankets.

  • CaligulasRuin

    So much win falling on deaf ears.

  • Deeper

    I am real, Linda. Look, you have no chance in “winning” this argument because you are swimming against established facts.

    “there are 1.3 million with autism with similar stories. No studies have ever been designed to find out why”
    Prove it.
    Also, you need to learn that anecdotal evidence cannot qualify as data.

    For example, I used to believe that that mixing carbs and proteins disrupted digestion because alkaline and acidic enzymes would mix in the gut. I noted that I was never tired after eating only a carb, or only a protein. I believe this for years. What really happened was that I wanted to believe I would feel better with and the placebo effect kicked in. Plus, when foods are mixed, portions are often higher.

    The truth is that sites like Health Nut News attract people with very little understanding of scientific methodology.

    That said, there is absolutely ZERO evidence that vaccines cause autism. If you could find something, please post it. Maybe you’ll get a Nobel prize.

    To the untrained parent, signs of autism aren’t noticeable until after the age which vaccines are administered. It’s like how ice cream sales are correlated with murder rates. Do ice cream sales cause murder? (No, the heat affects both).

  • Vassiliki

    I am sorry to hear about your twins. I also read that the single doses are more expensive because the doctor has to buy more than 1 so he may get stuck with the other ones so it is not in his best interest to purchase those for his patients. I do know about the medical exemption but my girls do not qualify. there is no autism in my family. Mainly I guess because my parents were immigrants and then received very few immunizations when they were little. So that left me with the religious exemption which NJ just took away. There is a way to fight it but you have to get a lawyer which is an expense that I cannot afford as a single mom.
    Thanks for clarifying the single injection vs the single vaccination!!! I did not know the difference and it was pretty crappy of the doctor to do that when he knew darn well what you wanted for the twins and their past history with vaccinations.

  • CaligulasRuin

    “…there is no autism in my family. Mainly I guess because my parents were immigrants and then received very few immunizations when they were little.”

    Oh the stories we tell ourselves to feed that narrative.

  • Vassiliki

    I weighed the risks of vaccinations and the risk of contacting a disease and I chose not to vaccinate. If they want the Hep B vaccine they can get that when they become sexually active. They do need that at birth unless your newborn is a needle drug user and having sex. As for chicken pox- I wanted then to get it so they could build life long immunity instead of having to get booster shots every 10 years. Whooping cough or pertussis can be treated (my mother and her siblings had that during WWII and they survived). I could go on but I am not. The point is that parents should have a choice. Personally it is not any of your business why I have not vaccinated my children.

  • Vassiliki

    that is not a story. No one in my family has autism including my whole village in Greece of 600 people. all my cousins, aunts, uncles, siblings, etc. Get the picture? what narrative? If it is my story what is to you?

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  • JGC

    Could you be more specific regarding how you’ve identified what risks are associated with routine vaccination? I’m unable to understand how any rational evaluation of relative risk would not overwhelming support being vaccinated versus than remaining vulnerable to the infectious diseases vaccines protect against–unless, of course, you’ve been led to mistakenly believe increased risk of developing conditions like autism spectrum disorders, diabetes, etc, is causally associated with routine vaccination.

    ” If they want the Hep B vaccine they can get that when they become sexually active. They do need that at birth unless your newborn is a needle drug user and having sex.”
    I’m sorry, but this is false: the hepatitis B virus can be spread by any transfer of infectious blood or other body fluids, not solely through sexual contact or drug use. Given that 70 to 80% of infected adults and almost all children under 5 who are infected are completely asymptomatic for the disease, unless you’re going to isolate your children completely from any and all adults and other children who have not been tested for and found negative for Hep B your children remain at risk of infection even if they’re not sexually active. The CDC has in fact found that 30 to 40% of all chronic hep b infections are acquired in childhood–and I trust you’re not going to argue all those children (including those asymptomatic children under 5) were drug users or sexually active). See http://shotofprevention.com/2010/05/06/why-infants-should-receive-the-hepatitis-b-vaccine-at-birth/ for a more detailed discussion of what infants should be vaccinated against hep b.

    Re: chicken pox, the CDC does not recommend booster inocculation every ten years, so clearly your decision was founded in false information.

    Re: whooping cough–the fact that two of your relatives survived whooping cough does not argue it is not a serious disease nor that it is treatable (i’ll note that in this context ‘treatable’ means ‘hospitalized in an ICU for an extended period of time’). Worldwide there are 30 to 50 million cases of pertussis each year resulting in 200,000 to 400,000 deaths.

    “Personally it is not any of your business why I have not vaccinated my children.”
    It becomes everyone’s business why, when you argue on the basis of your decision and personal experience that others should do the same.

  • JGC
  • JGC

    “It’s nonsense, read the study from Canada.”
    What study from Canada should I read? You haven’t identified it.

    “You have any idea how much it
    cost to take care of all the injuries from vaccines?”

    No I don’t, but given that the adverse events associated with routine childhood vaccination are both well characterized,with those that are common being both transient and minor (e.g. soreness at the site of injection, low grade fever) wjile those that are serious and lasting being all but vanishingly rare (e.g., encephalopathy) it’s counter-intuitive to presume the costs would exceed that of caring for all the injuiries from the infectious diseases vaccines protect against.

    of course, if you can provide evidence that is the case–that the cost associated with injuries associated with routine vaccination exceeds the cost associated with infectious diseases themselves–I’ll revise my position.

    Got any?

    and how rarely I would certainly like to: what does it cost, and what injuries caused by vaccines are you including in that cost? Note that the

    “The Vaccine Injury Court that has paid out 3.7 billion
    and that is taxpayers money as the billion $ drug companies are not
    responsible for any injury or damage their products cause.”

    Actually, the NVICP trust is funded by an excise tax on all vaccines paid by the vaccine manufacturers, and those manufactturers still remain responsible for any injury or damage caused by manufacturing defects in their products.

    Note from the inauguration of the NVICP through March 2015 4,022 awards
    had been granted by the NVICP. During that same time period more than 2
    billion vaccine doses were delivered (2,236,678,735 doses as of Dec 31,
    2013). Awards to doses delivered is 0.0002% (and that’s rounding up).

    More critically, more than 90% of all awards given were for
    table injuries, where no causal association between the vaccination
    received and the injury claimed has either been demonstrated by the
    claimants nor acknowledged by the court.

    Fianlly consider that all the awards given have been for adverse
    events ALREADY KNOWN to be associated with vaccination (e.g.,
    encephalopathy) so if anything the NVICP award record supports the
    conclusion that our current understanding of the safety and efficacy of
    routine vaccination, which adverse events are associated with vaccines
    and the incidence with which they occur, is accurate.

  • Lindaxox

    Your research skills are so good and you can’t find a study from ON Canada on hospital visits and costs due to vaccination. You should hire a researcher.
    The Vaccine injury Court represents a small % of the injuries, most didn’t even know it existed, most can’t afford to go there, most can not jump through the numerous hoops that are in place. That is a known published fact. Some people have been waiting 12 years for their day in this phoney court. Many injured kids have Dr’s and scientists as parents, they know what happened and all the lies and ‘bought’ science won’t change it. Thankfully Europe is not as controlled. Vaccine injuries are well hidden but finally getting out there now. Yes ppl in Canada are stupid, europe too, they go to emergency with a little redness and swelling at the site of the 8 vaccines in one shot. It is just stupid of you to even say it or more likely your paid job. You can’t be that dumb!
    what infectious diseases are you talking about, you don’t say…it better not be measles, mumps or chickenpox. The UK after studying the matter has discontinued the chickenpox, a week of itchy. Every kids got them along with the measles and mumps and never even saw a Dr. More are going to hospitals with vaccine injuries. Look up NY Times, 2007, baby almost dies and spends 80 days in hospital after catching smallpox from newly vaccinated military father. Wife gets a milder case and they mention other cases.
    The money paid out by the Vaccine Injury Court, established after the Supreme Court said vaccines are unavoidably unsafe, gets its money from a tax on ea vaccine, then they buy them with taxpayers money. The gov doesn’t generate any money!

  • JGC

    “The US is the most vccinated country in the developed world and also has
    the highest infant mortality rate and very high for children under 5.
    Right there something is very wrong, no excuses.”

    What’s wrong is the attempt to use reported incidences of infant mortality as a method of comparison for health care health care performance across nations Different nations use different criteria to determine which deaths are considered instance of infant mortality. Such a comparison however isn’t valid, because of differences in the way the US and other nations monitor and report infant mortality.

    In the US, for example, babies who are not viable and die quickly after birth are
    more likely to be included in infant mortality statistics while in
    countries outside the United States (especially Japan, Sweden, Norway,
    Ireland, the Netherlands, and France) such non-viable births are more
    likely to recorded as stillbirths and excluded from infant mortality
    stats, making the US rate appear misleadingly high compared to those
    other nations. It’s been estimated that this inflates the US number by
    as much as 40% (see Eric Gibson et al., “Effect of Nonviable Infants on
    the Infant Mortality Rate in Philadelphia, 1992,” American Journal of
    Public Health 90, no. 8 (August 2000): 1303.)

    ” A study done in Ontario Canada of hospital visits after vaccinations
    was shockingly high, much higher than if the child had chickenpox or
    measles.”

    Which, if I recall the study correctly, indicated only that parents who were more likely to take their children to physicians when they were ill were also more likely to have them vaccinated according to the recommended schedule–not that children that were vaccinated were more likely to require medical attention than those who were note. It would help if you could cite the study, of course.

    ” 1 in 50 with autism, this went from 1 in 10,000 only 30 yrs ago.”
    The most recent CDC figures are actually 1 in 68, and this represents an increase in the an increase in the number of individuals diagnosed as autistic rather than a measured increase in the number of individuals in the population who are autistic. A large part of the increase is demonstrably a function of factors other than an increasing number of autistic individuals, such as improved surveillance, broadening of diagnostic criteria following the publication of DSM-IV, and diagnostic substitution (i.e., people who previously would had been diagnosed as exhibiting something other than an autism spectrum disorder who are now correctly being diagnosed as being autistic.).
    Certainly the increase cannot be rationally interpreted as a consequence of routine vaccination, given the multiple large scale epidemiologic studies, conducted by multiple independent researchers and public health agencies in multiple nations, which rebut the existence of a causal association between vaccination and ASD’s.

    “so is the evidence that these vaccines are now doing more harm than good.”

    What evidence demonstrates this, Linda? Be specific.

    ” If not for the billions spent on bullies, bribes, threats, false
    advertising, PR and marketing and media blackouts the dangers of
    vaccines would have been common knowledge.”

    Your evidence that billions have been spent on bullies, bribes, threats and false advertising specifically related to vaccine safety, Linda?

  • JGC

    I’m neither a joke, nor a troll, nor am I paid to post anything, on any subject, on this or any other forum. I suggest that’s why you find my posts difficult to address.

  • Dawn Anewday

    If it isn’t the vaccines or adjuvants or the animal or human tissues in vaccines causing autism , what is it? The condition is being noticed/diagnosed AFTER vaccines have been administered. And where are the studies that prove that these pathogens and chemicals do not cause autism? The proper studies have never been done……or if they have, they have been hidden and not reported.

  • Lindaxox

    This is just nonsense and you know it. It’s excuses and twisted. Mortality for children under 5 also very high, twist that one. Some countries don’t know the child died!
    You say 1 in 68 with autism like it’s nothing yet the drug companies made a media crisis out of 179 cases of measles, a childhood disease most every kid got without so much as a Dr visit. What year was 1 in 68 published?? 1 in 68, image that was cases of measles! No its brain damage. Many parents of these children are Drs and scientists and they know what happened and a troll like you and the thousands of others are not going to change it. Money states a case of measles is something to fear, 1.3 million with brain damage hardly worth mentioning. Where are the millions of people with this brain damage that were not diagnosed? ? You think just the label makes the difference. People are not that stupid or blind. Yes the drug companies have been fined billions for criminal behaviour, public knowledge. Yes Bill Gates Foundation paralyzed 47,500 with his polio vaccine. Yes they were caught lacing the tetanus vaccine with a sterilizing agent. Yes thousands of young girls damaged by the HpV vaccine. Yes 1.3 million with brain damage shortly after being vaccinated, some cases within minutes and others within hours. This is all well documented. 4 independent studies says the CDC is corrupt, that is also a fact. No science from the drug companies, their funded universities or paid for can be trusted. These studies are not designed to answer any questions of importance and certainly not anything negative.
    With your logic, tobacco, Vioxx and Statin drugs are just great…saving lives or doing no harm, that’s what the published science said.

  • JGC

    I don’t know it’s nonsense, it ‘s fact rather than excuses, and there’s no twist. Differente nations, both developed and undeveloped, monitor and report child mortality very differently, such that it isn’t an appropriate metric to use to compare public health performance across nations.
    “You say 1 in 68 with autism like it’s nothing yet the drug companies made a media crisis out of 179 cases of measles, a childhood disease most every kid got without so much as a Dr visit.”
    1 in 68 isn’t nothing: it’s an approximation of the true incidence of ASD’s in the population, The reason why the 179 cases of measles is significant is that those 179 cases were entirely preventable.
    And contrary to your attempt to characterize measles as a disease that isn’t serious—that most people get through without so much as a Doctor’s visit—it’s a very serious and highly contagious illness that causes high numbers of hospitalizations and deaths. In the decades before routine childhood vaccination against measles, in the US there were on average 3 to 4 million cases of measles each year, mostly in children, resulting in 28 thousand hospitalization, 450 deaths and 1000 indiviuals who survived with serious chronic disabilities from measles encephalitis. In 2013, according to the World Health Organization, there were 450,700 deaths due to measles worldwide—that’s more than 400 deaths each day.
    “What year was 1 in 68 published??”
    March 28, 2014, by the CDC.
    “ Many parents of these children are Drs and scientists and they know what happened and a troll like you and the thousands of others are not going to change it.”
    I‘m not a troll (I am a parent and coincidentally a scientist).
    “Where are the millions of people with this brain damage that were not diagnosed?”
    Autism isn’t brain damage, Linda: it’s a neurodevelopmental disorder. Learn the difference.
    “ Yes the drug companies have been fined billions for criminal behaviour, public knowledge.”
    Citations needed to instances where the criminal behavior they were proven guilty of was associated with misrepresenting the safety and efficacy of vaccines—or does your argument reduce to nothing other than “We all KNOW what they’re like!”?
    “Yes Bill Gates Foundation paralyzed 47,500 with his polio vaccine.”
    Citations needed, again—your evidence that the foundation’s polio vaccines paralyzed such a large number of people would be what, exactly? Be specific.
    “ Yes they were caught lacing the tetanus vaccine with a sterilizing agent.”
    Not that I’m aware—your evidence this was the case?

    “Yes thousands of young girls damaged by the HpV vaccine.”
    Not that I’m aware—your evidence this was the case?
    “ Yes 1.3 million with brain damage shortly after being vaccinated, some cases within minutes and others within hours. “
    You do realize that ‘after’ is not synonymous with ‘because of”–right? You do know what a ‘post hoc ergo propter hoc’ logical fallacy is–right?
    “This is all well documented. 4 independent studies says the CDC is corrupt, that is also a fact.”
    Where can I find this documentation and theses four studies, Linda?
    “No science from the drug companies, their funded universities or paid for can be trusted. “
    Why not?
    “These studies are not designed to answer any questions of importance and certainly not anything negative.”
    What questions do your regard as important, that have not been addressed?
    “With your logic, tobacco, Vioxx and Statin drugs are just great…”
    Not at all, as there is actual evidence that Vioxx causes excess cardiac events in a very small subgroup of the population— those who prior to treatment already meet criteria for low-dose aspirin prophylaxis of secondary cardiovascular events (those who had had previous myocardial infarctions, angina, cerebrovascular accident, transient ischemic attack, or coronary artery bypass). In all other patients it isn’t associated with any degree of risk. This could not have been determined prior to approval and marketing, because it’s impossible for any Phase III study to recruit sufficient numbers of subjects to detect events occurring only in such a small subgroup of specific individuals, with such an extremely low rate of occurrence. There is no equivalent evidence that vaccines are inappropriately safe—i.e., that the risks associated with vaccination exceeds the risk associated with remaining vulnerable to the infectious diseases they protect against.

  • JGC

    “I weighed the risks of vaccinations and the risk of contacting a disease and I chose not to vaccinate.”
    That’s hard to comprehend, unless you mistakenly believe a great many things which aren’t causally associated with routine childhood vaccination (such as developing an autism spectrum disorder) are a possible risk of vaccination.
    The adverse events associated with routine vaccination are well characterized: those that are common are both transient and minor (e.g., soreness at the site of injection, low grade fever) while those that are serious (e.g., encephalopathy) are all but vanishingly rare. Any rational consideration of the demonstrated risks comes down strongly in support of routine vaccination.

    Consider, for example, that risk of developing encephalopathy: the MMR vaccine is seen to cause 1 additional case of encephalopathy for every one million doses delivered. Measles itself, on the other hand, causes 1 additional case for every 1 thousand infections. One million versus one thousand—that’s a difference in risk of three orders of magnitude, favoring vaccination against measles rather than remaining vulnerable to infection.

    “If they want the Hep B vaccine they can get that when they become sexually active. They do need that at birth unless your newborn is a needle drug user and having sex.”
    You’re speaking s if Hep B was solely transmitted by sexual contact or drug use. That isn’t true—it isn’t a life style disease. It’s a bloodborne pathogen transmissible by even causal exchange of bodily fluids. An estimated 1.25 million people are chronically infected with the hepatitis B virus in the United States alone, resulting in an estimated 2,000-4,000 deaths each year of which between 30 and 40% of were acquired during childhood and not as a result of sexual contact or drug use.

    Almost 50% of all adults and more 90% of all children under 5 who are infected are completely asymptomatic for the disease. Approximately 24,000 women with hepatitis B infections, many do not even know they are infected, and 90% of infants born to infected mothers become infected during delievery. Infants infected at birth have a greater than 90% chance of suffering a chronic infections such as liver cancer, cirrhosis and liver failure when they become adults.

    See http://shotofprevention.com/2010/05/06/why-infants-should-receive-the-hepatitis-b-vaccine-at-birth/ for a more detailed discussion of why infants should be vaccinated against Hep B.

    “As for chicken pox- I wanted then to get it so they could build life long immunity instead of having to get booster shots every 10 years.”
    The CDC doesn’t recommend children receive booster innoculations against chicken pox every 10 years, Vassiliki.

    “Whooping cough or pertussis can be treated (my mother and her siblings had that during WWII and they survived).”
    The fact that two of your relative survived doesn’t argue whooping cough isn’t a deadly disease, and your claim it can be treated is true only if ‘treated’ is defined as ‘if you’re hospitalized for an extended period of time and subject to significant risk of death or permanent injury’.

    “Personally it is not any of your business why I have not vaccinated my children.”
    It becomes everyone’s business when you’re placing others at risk by encouraging others to make the same decision you have made on the basis of inaccurate or false information (such as is demonstrably the case with respect to your objections to Hep B and varicella vaccination).

  • JGC

    “Your research skills are so good and you can’t find a study from ON Canada on hospital visits and costs due to vaccination.“
    I expect I could find multiple studies from Canada on this subject. What I’m interested in, however, is the study you’re referring to—and unless you identify which one it is I can’t consider it’s content. As for hiring a researcher, it’s your responsibility to defend your position, not my responsibility to go looking for evidence to support claims you’ve made.

    “The Vaccine injury Court represents a small % of the injuries, most didn’t even know it existed, most can’t afford to go there, most can not jump through the numerous hoops that are in place.”
    All can afford to go there, Linda: the court pays all the plaintiff’s legal costs regardless of whether the court finds for or against the claim, and will waive any upfront application fees if the plaintiffs demonstrate they lack the financial resources to cover them themselves.

    “That is a known published fact.”
    Where can I find these ‘known facts’ published, Linda?

    “Some people have been waiting 12 years for their day in this phoney court.”
    Which people, Linda?

    “ Many injured kids have Dr’s and scientists as parents, they know what happened and all the lies and ‘bought’ science won’t change it.”
    How exactly have these doctors determined what happened, Linda—i.e., established a causal association between vaccination and the injuries they believe their children suffered as a result?

    “ It is just stupid of you to even say it or more likely your paid job. You can’t be that dumb!”
    I‘m neither dumb nor paid to say anything, on any forum.

    “what infectious diseases are you talking about, you don’t say…it better not be measles, mumps or chickenpox. “
    Why must it not be measles, mumps or chicken pox, Linda—do you have evidence that the risks associated with vaccination against these diseases exceeds the risks associated with these diseases themselves?

    “The UK after studying the matter has discontinued the chickenpox, a week of itchy. “
    In the USA, in the decade prior to the development and routine scheduling of a vaccine against it, chicken pox caused about 4 million cases of chicken pox each year (mostly in children), resulting in 10,000 to 16,000 hospitalizations and 100 to 150 deaths (again, mostly in children.

    That’s a great deal more than ‘a week of itchy’.

    “More are going to hospitals with vaccine injuries.”
    In the US more than 10,000 to 16,000 people are hospitalized each year due to injuries caused by varicella vaccines? Citations needed, Linda.

    “Look up NY Times, 2007, baby almost dies and spends 80 days in hospital after catching smallpox from newly vaccinated military father.”
    Smallpox and chicken pox aren’t the same thing, Linda, and I trust you’re aware that smallpox hasn’t been on the recommended schedule since 1972.

    “The money paid out by the Vaccine Injury Court, established after the Supreme Court said vaccines are unavoidably unsafe, gets its money from a tax on ea vaccine, then they buy them with taxpayers money. The gov doesn’t generate any money!”

    Linda, can you cite the Supreme Court opinion, and provide a legal definition for the term ‘unavoidably safe’? I do not think it means what you think it means.

  • JGC

    Linda, i had some free time and decided to look for Canadian studies addressing the frequency of visits to physicians following vaccination.
    I did find one Ontario, Canada study (PMID: 26177077) which observed the inauguration of routine vaccination against chicken pox reduced the number of visits to a physicians by over 70%.
    I doubt that’s the one you were thinking of, however.

  • HisCrownJewel

    Fair enough. It was an assumption on my part because of the frequency we hear of alternative doctors either opposed to vaccines, questioning the efficacy of them, or at least approaching them with a more balanced attitude. Good call JGC.

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  • Rebecca Howell

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    And fire arms are NOT the number one means of suicide with females. Not by a long shot (no pun intended).

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  • Maryjane William

    I think you’ll find when you compare the sales figure for homeopathic against conventional medicine, you immediately see the point.

  • helen shriver15

    pls don’t pay any attention to jgc (paid troll) $ms paid to these trained people to bash common sense and take away individuals rights. the vaccines are not what they say they are. and it’s one big FAT LIE to say they have been proven safe!

  • helen shriver15

    jgc is a troll….anyone pushing the lie that vaccines have been proven to be safe and nothing to do with autism is either a paid troll or very ignorant….I have seen first hand many cases of perfectly healthy children become damaged and end up with autism diagnoses.Big money talks….and jgc is a paid troll as far as I am concerned but they can’t keep getting away with lies because the sheer number of damaged children is outweighing their lies. the evil criminals are running the show TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE

  • helen shriver15

    it is a combination of the vaccine damage and the food….altogether too toxic for the developing child. It’s all part of the culling of the population which is really hard for people to understand that this could even be possible. TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE 🙂

  • helen shriver15

    you are right i have seen this so many times first hand. Jenny McCarthy is spot on….if any of her advice can help from her book ie sourcing a recovery program for your daughter it has certainly helped others to recover. the evil giant is spending $ms on training trolls to keep up the big lie of vaccine safety and to ridicule anyone telling the truth about the toxic needle. so sorry to hear about your daughter. Good luck and hope you can find some help – it is out there. Dr Bradstreet found that nagalase an immune toxin that inhibits healing can be combatted with boosting the body with GcMAF – GcMAF is naturally occurring in healthy people where there is not too much nagalase. If the GcMAF level is high enough it will knock out the nagalase. Look up Dr Bradstreets treatment – Unfortunately, Dr Bradstreet was shutdown by big pharma via FDA (FACT so don’t listen to the paid Trolls) his clinic and labs raided and then he ends up dead – all because he was curing children with autism and cancer. WHY would governments make it illegal to cure cancer while parading 1000s of charities claiming to be searching for a cure….all the while making $b in treating dying people. good luck and prayers your way x

  • helen shriver15

    spot on unfortunately. WAKE UP THE hypnotised 🙂

  • helen shriver15

    join together folks – you are right – i think maybe it was more that we have see the big picture,not in any way to that take away from the criminal acts on the innocent individual children/babies with these shots. some of the damage is so severe that it takes over the lives of the whole family just to get by day by day. it is criminal.We the people are many and Truth has to prevail.not the trolling bully tactics that is seen so often by the paid fake science bloggers and there are many. Wake up the common man – stop being hypnotised by your TV programming and controlled media. 🙂

  • helen shriver15

    get thee behind me satan….you paid troll